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Anonymous
5/17/2026
Root Resolution: "Warren and Sanders are not radicals, they are moderate social democrats by European standards"

This view is based on some doing some basic research on both Sander's and Warren's websites. They both have proposed systemic changes that will tackle economic inequality. Progressive taxation, a wealth tax, a higher minimum wage, etc. It's mostly about reversing the past few decades that reduced taxes on the wealthy and allowing wages to stagnate. I don't see anything radical there. Anything too radical or against the constitution would be challenged in the courts which are currently conservative. So I think all this worry about Sanders and Warren is not based on anything they've put forward. It's more of a knee-jerk reaction to change. Change that a lot of people in the working class would like to see and benefit the most from.

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Anonymous
5/17/2026 07:39 PM

I would suggest that when discussing one country's politics, using another country's standards can be a little misleading. Another country being much more to the left of the United States doesn't change the fact that policies like Sanders' would represent a major shift to the left *for the United States*.

For perspective, think about doing the opposite. Let's say Norway had a conservative Christian presidential candidate who wanted to slash social programs and taxes. He might be labelled a reactionary, but we could in theory say 'well actually he's not all that right wing, he's actually only a little bit to the right by American standards.' The fact that he might even struggle to fit in with Republicans probably won't matter to Norwegians - electing him would represent a huge shift to the right *for Norway*.

All that said, right wing media does have an explicit political strategy of labeling anything to their left socialist or radical, so I don't think you're off base in general, but I do think it's appropriate to say that the country's political climate is more relevant than the globe's political climate when it comes to how much of a shift one candidate might represent; the United States could in theory be like Norway and Norway could in theory be like the United States but that kind of change would involve a massive political and social undertaking by either country, which would be relevant in a political discussion and is the exact kind of point that's getting dismissed when one says "Candidate X isn't really all that radical; he'd be a moderate in Country Y."

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