Pro
#1
FORFEITED
Hot people will be defined as people who all other people want to have sex with.
Rapist will be defined as person who has sex with other people when they dont want to have sex with him.
Burden of proof is on Con to prove that hot people can be rapists and that people they had sex with didnt want it.
Upon accepting the debate, description is agreed upon and cannot be changed.
Round 1
1 of 2
Pro
#1
Con
#2
So hot people have been defined as "people who all other people want to have sex with." This definition makes some sense, but it is not a definition that would likely be used in the real world.
And a rapist has been redefined as a "person who has sex with other people when they don't want to have sex with him." We can clearly see my opponent was trying to put me into a corner.
There are many ways "hot people" can fit this definition of "rapist." They can have sex with people at the wrong time, place, position, or method. Also, if there were millions of "hot people" in one room, some of them will be "hotter" than others. People will want to have sex with the "hottest" one of them all. If they have sex with someone not "hot" enough, they would prefer someone else, therefore not wanting it.
Round 2
2 of 2
Pro
#3
"Hot people will be defined as people who all other people want to have sex with.
Rapist will be defined as person who has sex with other people when they dont want to have sex with him.
Burden of proof is on Con to prove that hot people can be rapists and that people they had sex with didnt want it.
Upon accepting the debate, description is agreed upon and cannot be changed."
Hot people will be defined as people who all other people want to have sex with. So if someone didnt want to have sex with them, that would be contradiction with established definition. Definition includes all time, not just specific times, no specific times given.
Rapist will be defined as person who has sex with other people when they dont want to have sex with him.
So the only way someone can be hot is if all people want to have sex with him, and that contradicts with definition of rapist.
Con
#4
"Want" doesn't mean someone wants something in any way no matter what.
If someone says he wants candy, does that me he will be satisfied if you give him a kind of candy he hates? No! What if the candy is toxic? No!
Let's say there existed a type of candy that everyone wanted. Would that mean everyone would want that candy even if it got stepped on, became dirty or toxic, they were full?
Your logic makes no sense. Just because someone wants to have sex with someone doesn't mean that person wants every form of it. What if the sex is painful? What if it isn't perfect? What if he's not feeling like it today?
Your logic oversimplifies human experience. No human would ever want sex unconditionally. You assume that humans will enjoy any sexual experience with someone they are sexually attracted to.
The definitions that were decided on disprove your claims. It says a hot person is "someone all other people want to have sex with." Rape is when "someone has sex with someone else who doesn't want to have sex with him." You assume that wanting to have sex with someone means that they will like any sexual experience with that person. This is not true at all.
Your definitions are not even realistic in the real world.
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@SatanLucy
"Burden of proof is on Con to prove [...] that people they had sex with didnt want it."
This shouldn't be Con's burden. The topic is whether or not hot people can be rapists, not whether or not prior sexual experiences were desired.
Some topics are too nuanced, goes over people's heads.
That's why you see a lot of the same topics over and over.
It's what people are accustomed and rehearsed to engaging in.
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@Mal
You get it, but these other people dont.
I can see the logic in this. Somebody you are heavily attracted sexually is next to impossible for that person to not be received willingly. However, what if that person attempts to engage at an inappropriate time and place?
"Also you are losing track of all your debates"
Yes, I forgot which argument I wanted to make in that one.
"Women thought he was hot"
Unproved claim.
Also you are losing track of all your debates, you still havent addressed https://www.debatecraft.com/debates/d/3r/atheists-will-never-be-convinced-of-the-existence-of-the-gods-of-theism
Doesnt matter what i think. Women thought he was hot and so allowed him to be close.
Also he never raped me, so even if i said yes or no, it a mote point.
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@melcharaz
Do you think he is hot?
Ted bundy.
Next debate.