Calvinism is Nestorian

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Calvinism = the teachings of any "reformed" denomination of christianity


Nestorianism = any form of christological framework that draws too sharp a line between the human and divine nature of christ, such as to imply that there are actually two persons in christ rather than one person with two natures

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The Reformed Churches follow the Councils of Ephesus and Chalcedon, which explicitly reject Nestorianism. It is impossible for Calvinism to embrace something it condemns. It is an oxymoron to be a Nestorian Calvinist.

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Nestorius is rotting in his grave (unknown where)


Luther is sleeping in hades (either the realm of the dead or the d@mned)


Calvin is watching (C)alvin and the Chip-monks in fire (maybe the eternal kind idk)


I rest in piece and live forever (but never get to go to heaven lol)

Round 3

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avatar Con #6

Forfeiting an entire debate? You're definitely getting on the naughty list for this one.


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#9

I couldn't have done this debate because I don't know enough about the topic.

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#8

I believe in predestination, the nice and naughty I call them, while others call them the elect and damned.

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#7

Calvin and the Chipmonks

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#6
--> @Fruit_Inspector

1: When I say reformed I am assuming they are actually reformed, your objection to this definition is like saying "what if someone calls purple orange"

2: Nestorius himself didn't actually think Christ was two people, I'm not sure any church officially teaches that. The mere implication is itself the heresy.

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--> @MasterDestroyer

Your definitions could probably be updated.
Calvinism and "Reformed" are similar, but they are not synonymous.
Your definition of Calvinism leaves the door open for any whack job denomination calling themselves "Reformed," regardless of what John Calvin actually taught.
Nestorianism does not "imply" there are two persons based on how close you come to a subjective "line," that's the entire basis of the system. This should be made more clear.

If you are willing to resolve those issues, I will accept the debate. Perhaps a more general definition like "a system of theology based on the teachings of Calvin/Nestorius."

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#4
--> @philochristos

Debate?

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#3
--> @MasterDestroyer

Yeah, I know. I wasn't talking to you. I was trying to tag Philocristos, because I remember him saying he was a Calvinist.

If you are looking for Calvinism specifically, it may be hard to find someone on this platform, but we shall see.

Rule #1 of Debate Craft is never get your hopes up about anything.

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--> @SomeDebatePerson

I'm a Lutheran

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#1

You're a Calvinist, right?

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No brainer on this one, After proposing a good challenge, Pro takes a 3-round siesta. Total forfeiture by pro. Con wins, even providing valid argument in R1 against the topic for a decisive win: "It is impossible for Calvinism to embrace something it condemns. It is an oxymoron to be a Nestorian Calvinist."