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It is entirely logical for me to believe that something should be done but also oppose it being done, and oppose to believe what I believe in, consider something true but also believe its false

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SatanLucy
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"It is entirely logical for me to believe that something should be done but also oppose it being done"


I get this feeling all the time. I believe that something should be done to improve lives of future generations because it makes world better, safer, more free, educated and smarter, but I also oppose it out of jealousy of them living a better life than I did.



"and oppose to believe what I believe in"


I believe that God exists out of my irrational fears, but I also oppose that belief because no way any person living in Hell called Earth should dignify God who created it by believing in him.



"consider something true but also believe its false"


Same applies here. I consider that world will eventually become a better place thanks to technology, learning, advancements, new discoveries, but I also have small belief it's false because technology isn't good by default, it can end up badly too, like us being slaves to technology, life degrading into further hopeless abyss where all magic is lost.



It's called being undecided, this is just a longer term for it.

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SergeantLynch
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Hmmmmmmmm.


Never has the phrase "is as does" been more pertinent.


Because logic is as logic does...A. thinks B. is either logical or illogical, or vice versa...Logic is an abstract, subjective, arbitrarily applied philosophical concept...So in this instance I would suggest that whosoever might wish to assess this debate, will have to do so within the context of these criteria, and therefore their conclusions will be subjective and arbitrarily applied...Such would be logical though, wouldn't it?



But let's break it down:


Is it entirely logical?


Well, is logic logical or not?...Can logic actually be partially logical without being illogical...Tough one?...No, I would surmise that unentire logic is illogical.



Believe that something should be done but also oppose it being done.


Belief is another abstract concept with a somewhat futile premise, a true leap of faith as it were...Believable yet either likely or unlikely, knowing yet unable to know, therefore unknowable...Yep belief is illogical, yet a logical outcome of unknowing.


So is Pro's opposition also based upon belief, or do they use different data processes to differentiate between belief and opposition and therefore output either a conclusion or even an action...We do not know...Such is the incoherence of the hypothesis...So wherein logic might prevail I cannot say.



Oppose to believe what I believe in.


Scratches his head...Hmmmmmmmm...


Simply, not sure it's logical to:


A. Oppose ones own belief.


B. Not believe in what one believes in.


C.Oppose believing in ones belief.



Consider something true but also believe it's false.


Well, two processes, consideration and belief, both unknowing therefore an indeterminate and inconclusive outcome, in itself logical...Though one must question whether believing a falsehood is reasonably logical and further question if the consideration of a truth is significantly productive in terms of establishing a precept...So as before, an incoherent hypothesis, which might be deemed to therefore lack a reasonably logical progression.



So I must conclude:


That my opponents indecision is not as they asserted, "entirely logical".

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