A short story I wrote

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Hey, I’m back guys! I’m not dead, my life just got a little busier recently and I haven’t had as much time for DART/Debate Craft recently. I probably won’t be doing many debates or mafia, or anything time consuming really, but I might post in the forum from time to time.


Anyways, I got bored recently and wrote this short little piece. I kinda sums up my views on philosophy in genera, but more specifically, epistemology. I was inspired a lot by philosophers like Nietzsche, Camus, and Sartre. Tell me what you think…


The Diver


The diver dove because he wanted to find the bottom. As a runner sets out to finish a race, and as an architect lays the foundation to construct his masterpiece, so to the diver swam down to touch the ocean floor and to know that the entire sea rested upon it.


So down he went. He passed a school of fish swimming by, and he marveled at how soon, his discovery would explain the existence of the fish before his eyes.


So on he swam. The light began to disappear and the diver was cloaked in darkness. All forms and colors dissolved into the only black mass that was everything.


And on the diver swam. The cold of the ocean began to numb the skin of the diver beneath his wetsuit. After five minutes, he could no longer see or hear anything.


And still, on swam the diver. There was nothing in existence anymore, only the rhythmic motion of his body as he continued on, but even that became subject to skepticism, as the diver could no longer be sure that he was still making progress downwards.


Eventually, the only thing left to him, and possibly the world, was the idea, the goal of reaching the bottom. “The Bottom” was all the diver could think of, each kick down another skeptic, “why?”.


The diver stopped and looked around. Before, he hadn’t been able to see, but now, he doubted that sight itself ever existed, and then doubted whether he was really doubting. Surrounded by non-existence and the dead blackness of doubting doubt itself, the diver screamed into the abyss, begging for the ocean floor that had led him here those seemingly millennia ago.


He heard no echo, no response. He waited. Then gradually, he began to hear a voice. He could not tell if it came from within or without, but it mattered not as such definitions had lost meaning miles ago. The voice spoke to the diver, and said, “The ocean floor is there, you simply must have faith and look for it”. So the diver looked with the only eyes he had and the only eyes suitable to see anything of matter. He searched and searched with those eyes until they hurt from straining against the dark.


That’s when the diver realized something. The eyes he was using to look for the ocean floor could never see it, as they were the eyes of the mind. In the moment, the diver knew where the voice had come from. It had come from his heart, from his wanting to find the sea floor, a place that had never been in the first place, as he could see so plainly now. It was a place that could only be seen by the eyes that needed to see it, despite what the eyes of the mind truly witnessed.


The diver despaired. The sea floor never had been, and so with its collapse crumbled the whole ocean. The diver gave into the currents. He no longer felt and drifted along with the void of absurdity. He stopped thinking, but it soon became apparent that he never really had ended his thought, just gave it no effort.


With this revelation, he now had one thing to call his own, his though, and so he put everything into it. He realized that in this world of senselessness and meaningless his thoughts still came like the tide, and with that tide came existence, and himself. He thought of many things, and one day, he thought of the fish he had seen on his way down, back in the world of discernible form. Then it came to him. The fish existed separate from the ocean floor. Neither relied on each other for their being in the world, and both had beauty alone. However one was real, while the other was not. The fish with their brilliantly colorful display of choreography existed due to the eyes of the diver’s mind, while the sea floor was a hopeless wanting of the eyes of the diver’s heart.


So the diver swam upwards and he didn’t stop. In the world he was leaving behind, there was nothing, but simply by virtue of the diver’s conscious thoughts and being, the world above did exist, separate from any foundation of a sea floor, because the diver himself was the foundation. His eyes gave beauty to the fish merely by their sight, and his stream of thoughts created his world, apart from any sea floor. So the diver swam up, and the world came down to meet him, the world as created by virtue of the diver.


The diver sat on a cliff over looking the sea. The sun had nearly set, but before the soothing and calming orange, the sun released one last triumphant shade of brilliant golden light, that seemed to be beauty in itself. As seagulls flew overhead, the diver looked out at the most vibrant and powerful shade he had ever seen, and knew that he didn’t care anymore about a sea floor miles below him, because what he saw and what he felt was real. It was real separate from any God or simulation, meaning or purpose. It was real because of himself.


The diver said aloud, not as a shout but neither as a whisper, “This is it” and he was correct.

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#2 •••
@Moozer325

I do like the story, though I don't 'know the meaning.


I've often had a desire of some sort of unknown end/goal/knowledge that I feel I'm gaining towards, some moments in life.


People do X for various reasons, some people want to find the bottom of the ocean, some want pearls to sell, some love swimming and fish.

Some run for the finish line, some run for the high, some for the exercise.


. . . The ocean 'does have a bottom, though I'm not so sure about some other physicality in existence, or concepts and goals.


"the diver himself was the foundation"

Is interesting, reminds me of something Zed said, I think.

About all our impressions and sensing of the world, occurring in ourselves.

Though the world may be, we've all our own impressions.


Same thinking as the blind men and the elephant I suppose.

. . .


But the world existed before us, possibly.

Forms us, laws of existence us.


I would still want to dive, and find the bottom of the sea.

. . .


I'm not really s- I've never been satisfied with Existentialism, Practical Realism.

I find I 'conform to it, but I don't like it.

I feel as though it is a lie, and worse for my 'knowing it a lie.

Yet I 'must follow it, but I don't like it, I dislike praising it.

I dislike Absurdity as well, it feels a surrender to a madness.


. . . Course Metaphorically, maybe there isn't a sea bottom. . . But I'm not satisfied with the sights on the way down, there is 'more, I can't help but feel.

I can't help but be 'sure, seagulls, fish, darkness, but there is more, in the darkness there are lights, angler fish, giant squids, goblin sharks,

I'm sure the bottom is down there as well.


"real separate from any God or simulation, meaning or purpose"


Is that 'human?

I'm doubtful, I think it's all that which 'made us human, all that we can not do without and 'remain.


"To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape."

-Terry Pratchett, Hogfather

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@Moozer325

Good story, relative to philosophy, but I suspect this is also fiction, and fiction has a major quirk: suspension of disbelief; i.e., making the story plausible when dealing with facts that may make the story unbelievable. Fiction wants to be believed, or the reader may lose interest, because fiction is, well, not truth. The trick is being able to blur the line between fiction and reality such that the story remains believable.

So, I am a recreational scuba diver, but I have never been deeper than about 40 meters [130 ft].Such people represent about 2% of the world population, so, not that common of an activity. That plays in your favor, suspension-of-disbelief-wise. Most enthusiasts have a single, 80 cru. ft tank, [3,000 psi] which, at 10m [33 ft] will last about an hour. And the standard wetsuit will only endure the effects of pressure to a little beyond that 40m before other protection is needed, so, going "miles down" suspends disbelief. The average depth of the oceans to a floor is about 3,700m [12,000 ft]. Granted, these are factors that, given the small percentage of divers in the world, again, work in your favor, but, there are guys like me who will not be held with rapt attention to the story.

Then, there are necessary decompression stops on the way back up - necessary about every 20m [65 feet] to prevent the bends [O2 bubbles rising out of suspension in the blood, which is fatal without such stops]. For example, once at about 25m [82 ft] I decided to see if I could rise to the surface, making one decompression stop on the way [one should always have a depth gage] on a single breath, constantrly exhaling all the way up. Such is necessary, even with the stop, to prevent O2 bubbles resulting in the bends. I succeeded, though belng a dangerous matter. It was a thrill to realize it could be done.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@Moozer325

It’s self realization that darkness has no meaning.

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#5 •••
@Debby
It’s self realization that darkness has no meaning


Of course it has meaning. People get bored of the light.

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#6 •••
@fauxlaw

Yeah, It was never supposed to be a realistic story, the goal was for it to be a big allegory. I’ve never been Scuba diving myself, but I was aware of the limitations of Scuba.


For me, the ocean in the story represents philosophy itself, and the ocean floor is the one unifying answer that I was looking for when I first got into the subject.


My goal in making the plot of a Scuba diver that dives for miles without needing air or any decompression stops really was to make such an absurd plot that the underlying allegory would come more to the forefront.

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#7 •••
@Debby

I like that. It’s kinda like a humanistic or existentialist take on meaning. The sooner we stop searching for external meaning, the more time we have to create it ourselves.


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#8 •••
@Moozer325

But rather than make the philosophy shine, which it should, the interrupts make it sound like the diver is doing the Mariana Trench just off Guam, 11,000m. I know you're not an deeply experienced writer, I'm just passing on a friendly critique to help make the story better. If you are aware of the limitations, use them to your advantage; don't ignore them. Yes, that's a challenge, but why not meet it head-on?

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@Moozer325

It helps if we don’t hit rock bottom first.

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#10 •••
@fauxlaw

Yeah, I definitely appreciate the feedback. I hadn’t really seen it that way but it helps to know that it does come across like that. Honestly, there are other metaphors I could have used, maybe I’ll rewrite it with a better one.

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#11 •••
@Debby

I wish that too, but honestly for me, it was necessary to get to the beliefs I have now.

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#12 •••
@Moozer325

Even if you'd written the Old Man and the Sea,

People might have criticized bits.


Water, swimming, ocean,

Are all cool mediums, useful, relatable.

One 'does often drift in the sea,

Sea is often murky deep and vast.


Maybe it 'is some deep part of the ocean,

Maybe the Earth has flooded like Waterworld, or it's some 'other planet.

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#13 •••
@Moozer325

Please get to it soon and stop making us wait.

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