Humanity?

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Amir-Saeid Iravani, the current Iranian UN Ambassador, in voted "humanity" as he complained against the US proposal to destroy Iran's bridges and power plants if they do not open the Strait of Hormuz in 5 hours from now, less a few minutes since Trump's stated ultimatum deadline.


This absurd declaration by Iravani was claimed on the floor of the UN General Assembly while women and children - humanity, after all - apparently surround power plants in Iran. What about humanity for its own citizens? For a Great Satan, their own humanity is null and void.

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Imagine being upset that people want to defend their country after you invaded it for no reason.


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#3 •••
@SatanLucy

You obviously have no historic concept of this near-50-year conflict between the US and Iran. You're simply too young, my friend. I remember wells when Iran sacked the US Embassy in 1979 in Tehran when Carter, the Wimp, did nothing. And my older brother, a radiologist and USAF Colonel, he'd in Bahrain, but often traveled to Kuwait, UAE, and Oman in the 90s, during which Iran frequently attacked US bases around the Persian Gulf and near the Strait of Hormuz. I visited him in Bahrain in the late 90s and saw for myself Iran's continuous barrage against US bases there. This is no joke. Iran is bent, insanely, toward our destruction, not realizing that we can tur4n them to glass in no time, yet, they rattle sabres. Who is the Great Satan? Not us, my friend. Don't shake your immature cartoon finger at me, boyo.

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@fauxlaw

Imagine thinking history started in 1979.

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#5 •••
@SatanLucy


I did not say that. You did. I specified history of US/Iranian conflict, a specific issue of history which did begin in 199. Until then, US and Iran were allies. But, I don't expect you to know that since it occurred prior to you being around.

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@fauxlaw

Imagine believing conflict started in 1979.

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#7 •••
@SatanLucy

Good god, stop editing words out of what I say. You're better than. that. Don't be a shithead.


And I meant 1979. See, when I'm angry, I start mistyping.

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@fauxlaw

Religious ideology, and greed are the cornerstones of US Foreign policy in the Middle East...And clearly the only reason why the US needed/needs bases around the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz...And clearly the only reasons why the US is fucking up yet another Middle Eastern oil rich State and killing it's people.



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@fauxlaw

I'm not well read on what is or isn't considered a war crime.


We fire bombed civilians in 'so 'many places in WW2.

Course we did so to wreck their ability to supply their countries militaries.

Hazy line, civilian and military, bit sad in a way, medieval era they burned village, modern era, armies burn cities.

Well, they burned cities too, I'm just thinking of some British wars,

I read a book recently about the knight William Marshal, it talked about sacking villages a bit.


Still, WW2,

We might have been breaking some laws then. And/Or we might have changed some laws since then.

. . .


From a certain point of view, I get what Iran and it's people might be doing.

Ghandi in India, MLK in America, suffering to receive better rights.

Course on another hand, neither of the above was funding terrorists or shooting missiles like Iran has been doing.

Yeah, America has funded terrorists here and there too. . World is based on power, it's understandable why we might dislike each other a bit. Powers vie for Power.


Iran civilians,

But in another sense, are they then 'becoming combatants by their actions?

Same problem with countries that place mortars on top of hospitals.


Is it brave civilians, or cowardly military, unable to defend their country openly?

. . . Well, a hospital with mortar on top becomes a target either way.

. . Even US military bases often have nearby civilian presence, or are built in a city.


Course, who's to say how 'voluntary the Iranian civilian actions are?

Infants for instance, we don't generally see as legally being able to consent to being a human shield.

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@Leaning

Any time war can only be won by being immoral, morality will disappear.


the only people who care about morality in war are those who either arent fighting war or are able to win without violating too much morality.


But when victory is only possible by being immoral, then one must abandon victory to be moral.

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@SatanLucy

Hm,

WW2 Japan,

I'm not sure I'd say American Leaders morality 'disappeared, when they used fire bombing and nukes,

Invasion would have been costly, maybe more costly, both to us 'and them.


Morality then might have been a weighing of human life costs.

. . Even if death toll would have been mostly just American soldier deaths. . . Morality would not 'disappear, rather, it would be questioning what is most moral, and coming to the conclusion that we weigh our people's lives to a 'degree more than we do outside group.

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@Leaning

Most "war crimes" are tried in the ICC, of which the US is not a member. Therefore, no US citizen can by prosecuted there, meaning no convictions or acquittals. There's no trial, period. So, forget about talk of war crimes - the media, as well as the woke left, mostly does not get it, yet.





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@SergeantLynch

Greed for what? We currently buy only 3% of the oil that should be shipped through the Strait of Hormuz, but we are not desperate for it. We can step up our own production if needed. China will be hurt badly by the lack, but Russia can probably cover them.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

Well Faux, 3% is a somewhat spurious number, and doesn't really represent the US's insatiable greed for oil, nor the US's need to have control and/or influence over global oil supplies, nor accurate in respect of regional US's reliance upon oil imports...But what it does tell us is that the US still relies upon a certain level of oil imports.


If the US is such a happy happy self sufficient nation, why does it need to continually meddle militarily and politically in Middle Eastern and Central American affairs...OK, so yes the US also has to do what it's Jewish Overlords demand.

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@SergeantLynch

And you, sir, are ignoring a few facts that are on the table:

  1. What's wrong with more oil? Biden the Fool guaranteed the nation [remember the campaign promise to eliminate fossil fuel, but without promise of how green energy was going to compensate for the 60%-plus current US energy provided by petroleum, and when gre3en currently provides less than 25% of our total energy demand, We have plenty tiful petroleum supply in proven reserves to last close to 200 years into the future. That does not include unproven, but suspected additional reserve in the ground.,
  2. You ignore that petroleum is [unlike some green, like wind and solar] comntinuously available renewable energy [wind is not consistent; solar fails every night].
  3. The current cost of 1 gal of gas is about $5/gal, but compare that to the average cost of bottled water, which most people by in 16oz single-serve bottles in bulk that can cost $5 - $7 per gal.
  4. The U.S. "meddling" in Middle East issues in primarily a result of our having more than a NATO treaty with Europe to protect them against Russoan aggression. That possibility is clearly still a problem that has continued since WWII, and since the end of the Cold War in the late 80s. We do not have a treaty with Israel for their protection, since they are still the victim of aggression by M.E. countries since WWII, but we do have continuous, multi-year Memorandums of Understanding [MOU]; the current going through calendar 2028. That's your mislabeled "Jewish Overlord" claim. Biden the Fool proved ignorant and disinterested in the MOUs; his attitude about much for his "foreign policy." He barely had a Joe Biden policy. During his 2020 and 2024 presidential campaigns, he personally stated a number of times, on the record, that he was running forU.S. Senate.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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As I stated the US is still greedy for oil, because it's citizens like yourself are sold the lies that oil reserves are limitless and that relative environmental changes are bogus science...But of course, your overlords, the more intelligent ones, know that this is not true... But nonetheless they've got to keep pumping oil into the American dream...For now.


Not sure what The US's current meddling in Iran is about then, if it's not about Jews and oil...Don't think it's about bottled water...Unless you intend to blow up Iran's desalination infrastructure, thereby creating a new opportunity, along with bridge reconstruction....China or Russia will also be vying for those contracts though.


What I'm doing here is trying to at least put forward some sort of feasible pseudo-justification, for The US's current geo-political insanity...But maybe it is just about one Lunatic.

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#17 •••
@fauxlaw
when I'm angry, I start mistyping.



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#18 •••
@SergeantLynch
What I'm doing here is trying to at least put forward some sort of feasible pseudo-justification, for The US's current geo-political insanity...But maybe it is just about one Lunatic.


1 > mind first into a positive future >


AI..Google search..' Yes, coral reefs are vital to humanity, supporting over 500 million people globally by providing food security, livelihoods, and protection against coastal disasters. Despite covering less than 1% of the ocean floor, they support 25% of all marine life and deliver over $2.7 trillion in economic value annually through fisheries, tourism, and shoreline protection. '..

https://www.barrierreef.org/news/news/why-we-need-coral-reefs#:~:text=Coral%20reefs%20are%20important%20for%20many%20reasons:,50%20times%20more%20efficiently%20than%20terrestrial%20forests.


2 { livingdry }

> ...' War is obsolete. It is imperative that we get the word to all humanity “RUSH” before someone ignorantly pushes the button that triggers the pushing of all the buttons. What makes so difficult the task of informing humanity of its newborn option to realize success for all is the fact that all major religions and politics thrive only on the for-all-ages-held, ignorantly adopted premise of the existence of an eternal inadequacy of life support inherent in the design of our planet Earth. '...

https://www.bfi.org/about-fuller/big-ideas/livingry/


2 { weapondry } >Trump, Netanyahu, Kin Ung Pooh and more across many nations


If nuclear weapons are peackeepers, then, as long as some nations have then why all nations have them, to keep the peace?


AI..Google searcn....' AI Overview

.....Nuclear weapons are considered "peacekeepers" primarily through the theory of nuclear deterrence and Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), which suggests the catastrophic consequences of their use prevent direct, large-scale conflict between major powers. Proponents argue they maintained stability during the Cold War and prevent 3rd World War scenarios by making the cost of war too high'...


An Earth full of peacekeeping nuclear weapons, or,


..an Earth with no nuclear weapons and all nations working towards the survival of ecological systems that sustain us all.


There is only one logical, common sense critical thinking conclusion.


......All-for-One and One-for-All....... Simple is as simple does, if there is desire by enough people and especially those who would be King/Dictators etc.

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#19 •••
@ebuc

AI called for the destruction of Iran and all rogue nations.

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