Wales Remmeber Coal Collapse on School

What about pollution?

SatanLucy wrote:

They killed children for coal. Such are British.

Such is a dramatic misrepresentation Lucy.

Coal was a global necessity of the times and Wales rich in coal was no different...So the coal spoil was deposited where it was deposited by British Welsh people for British Welsh people who were at the time dependent upon coal as a means of income, heat and energy production...What is known as the "Aberfan Disaster" was a tragedy indeed, but nonetheless a consequence of human social development...If it had been a "Third World" event we would simply have carried on with our dinner and watched Z-Cars instead.

The British Empire was pretty impressive. It ruled India for over 2 hundred years.

True, the rise of British global dominance from the Tudor period right through to the industrial revolution was somewhat amazing...Most generous thing that we did was gift the Caribbean Islands to Africans, as a thank you for all their hard work.

Past colonies should invite the British back.

Correcting where I saw the {Not}-movie of this tragedy. It was on TV series The Crown, 3rd season 3 episode. That is the only place I saw anything about it.

AI...' The coal industry in Wales began its long-term structural decline immediately after World War I in the 1920s, even though production had peaked in 1913 '..

Life After Coal..' The challenges to Wales and Appalachia in recent decades are tragically similar. The Welsh coalfields were mostly shut down in the 1980’s, with a loss of more than 85,000 jobs. Meanwhile, the Appalachian coalfields lost over 70,000 mining jobs between 1980 and 2000, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). A June 2012 EIA report projects that Appalachian coal production will be cut in half this decade. Former mining communities in Wales have 30 years of experience with regenerating local economies. By comparing and contrasting the Welsh and Appalachian experience with coal, we are examining the human costs of de-industrialization and asking “what’s next for these rural communities?” '..

https://dailyyonder.com/life-after-coal-does-wales-point-way/2013/03/04/

AI..' Wales gets its electricity and energy from a mix of fossil gas, renewables (onshore and offshore wind, solar, and hydro), and imports from the rest of the UK '.

We even invited your PM to come and run our bank for a while.

Yes, well researched.

Up until the 1980's Britain had employed over 187,000 miners in over 1000 collieries.

Canadian banks are very successful.

Up until the 1980's Britain had employed over 187,000 miners in over 1000 collieries.

Black lung disease. OMG what a life to live.

Few years ago, I read, that, for scale of the business, trucking was most dangerous job, except for the small fishing boats.

AI..' Commercial fishing is consistently ranked among the deadliest occupations in the United States, though logging workers and commercial fishermen frequently trade the number-one spot depending on the specific metrics and year evaluated by the U.S. '..

I think specifically those boats off northwest in Pacific. I saw program where a family had two new boats built with the latest technologies available. The first time they both sank. There was some difficulty figuring out what went wrong. Then some one noticed a picture of one of the boats on land before it went out to sea, and they noticed that the line of paint on side of boat, used by fisherman to tell how heavy their load is, was painted on at the incorrect height on side of the boat.

So they had overloaded the boats and this caused them to capsize from too much crab.

1. AI..' The Error: A painter at a Seattle shipyard reportedly came in on a Sunday to rush and finish painting the vessels so they could be launched ("splashed") the next day. They painted the load lines—which tell a crew how low the boat can safely sit in the water when fully loaded—roughly 4 to 5 feet higher than they should have been. [1]
2. The Loading: Because both vessels were brand new, the skippers and the load master trusted the newly painted lines. They traveled light from the Pacific Northwest to Dutch Harbor, Alaska, where they began loading their heavy crab traps and gear '..

The Sea can be a scary place...Cold wet and deep.

And endless too.

Some jobs, such as one's that had/have high chance of causing black lung,

Seem like they 'ought pay 'extremely well,

And possibly have a 'very high rate of shifting people out, if by this one could manage workers only having 'slight health damage, but extraordinarily good pay.

Course the other route I suppose would be long term jobs that are nigh impossible to be fired from, and give long term health plans even into retirement.

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Modern world by now though, you're think we'd have VR operated drones or autonomous robots for a lot of jobs.

Debby wrote:

And endless too.

Elaborate this thought.

The Sea can be a scary place...Cold wet and deep.

Im certainly glad and fortunate Ive not been in a position to feel a need to choose between,

Coal mining { underground } or northwest pacific crab fishing { in the ocean }.

Maritime sea peoples vs landlocked { inner } land dwellers.

Sir Francis drake circum-sized the Earth with a 100' clipper....clipper ships from 1800's....circumnavigate/circumference of sphere----

8 billion plus humans need sources of energy. China if not other countries now concerned about enough younger people coming into existence, to fill the needs of the country. Japan has much less marriages and many more singles, ergo, less new-borns.

Fortunate vs unfortunate has been one of the constants, is my best guess, since first human existence on Earth.

Yes, evolution demands technological and universal progress...But I would suggest that 8 billion people is no longer a relative necessity.

Our government tells us that we have 1000 days to prepare for war...I wonder why.

Yep, crabs or coal, we need neither.

We need crabs and coal and not wars.

Our government tells us that we have 1000 days to prepare for war...I wonder why.

Cause UK is standing against Putin is my best guess. So fair warning to stock water, food, firewood, fuel, sheep, cows, clothing etc for those that can afford stuff. At best when I open my last can of this or that etc, I know it is time for me to buy the next can.

I dont have much beyond that currently, except bread. I dont have a basement much less a bunker. My house old house/shack is not even attached to a concrete footer in ground of any kind. It sits on railroad ties that is I presume it is nailed too. In some places its sits on a rock or cinder block.

In most ways Im kind of poor. Other ways Im maybe just above the poverty line. I dunno. I more of a sardines, eggs, tofu and bread kind of person. Have a small old firewood stove not hooked to any stove pipe. Small gas wall heater and few space heaters.

The war shouldn’t make any difference to you. Your condition will remain the same.

Appalachia wouldn't mind the end coal production if there was something to replace it. People don't sit around going, I wish I had this horrible job where I go underground and could possibly get black lung or killed. They look at the income and benefits they receive as miners. Find a job that they can get that pays the same wages and the same benefits and they would gladly give those jobs up.

They would gladly switch to digging for gold if the opportunity presented itself.

It has to be said that Planet Earth was an amazing Universal occurrence and that coal and other subterranean resources were too....Obviously predating ManGod by billions of years, but nonetheless thought provoking in creation and evolutionary terms...So if we extrapolate from this thought, then intellectual miners and industrialists would be a necessary evolutionary development thereof.

Coal - petroleum > released to atmosphere >

AI...' An unprecedented early-season collapse and disruption of the Arctic polar vortex is unfolding in November 2026, marking the earliest sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) event ever recorded. [1, 2] '....' Record Timing: The stratospheric polar vortex—the spinning ring of high-altitude winds trapping cold air over the North Pole—is undergoing a major disruption and potential wind reversal weeks earlier than any previously documented event (beating the prior record set on November 28, 1968). '...

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/polar-vortex-split-record-early-stratospheric-warming-event-november-2026-united-states-canada-europe-fa/

Aarticle.. ' But forecasts already show the first indirect links to the split cores, with cooler trends developing over parts of Europe and the eastern United States in coming weeks. '...

So what new jobs may arise from erratic climate change? Textile industry increase in production of blankets?

People moving in with each other to save money on living costs, and warmth. And if so, how would that create jobs? its the economy stupid...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Carville

...........E.C.O.N.O.M.Y...... and the CEO billionaries love Trumpet and Trumpet loves Stephen Miller { ICE in USA }.

Jobs in USA building Golden Arches for Trumpet and more high tech uniforms for ICE and Russian-N. Korean soldiers?

The global warming will offset the need for blankets.