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Occasionally over the years I've propounded on a concept which I call "hub value".


It's the reason why a state like Kansas can lower corporate taxes to the floor (I remember there was a governor named Sam Brownback who tried this) but not be able to entice businesses to migrate there from California: all your business partners are already in California. All the talent has already migrated to California since that's where the jobs are. If they all simultaneously migrated then the cost would be mitigated but the first to move will suffer a loss. And so, nobody moves. The passive influence that comes from already being big is what I call hub value.

Hub value isn't all-powerful. Texas is gradually gaining on San Francisco or Los Angeles even in the tech sector. For example, laxer zoning laws make it easier to build AI data centers in the state than in California. But basically no matter what California does it'll continue to be a big player for years, and probably decades, thanks to its massive pool of hub value.


This applies to the internet too. "Alt-tech" competitors to, say, YouTube or Wikipedia (e.g. Odysee and Conservapedia) will always struggle to take off because YouTube and Wikipedia are where things are already at. Granted, the cost is less than the California-Kansas example because you can visit multiple sites, but when what you find is a ghost town will minimal content then you'll be tempted to spend more time where a lot of content already exists and less time where that's not the case. The people uploading content to competitors sites, in turn, will be discouraged by this fact and upload to YouTube or Wikipedia instead.


But we may be entering an age where internet hub value is breaking down, and the first experiment is Grokipedia.

Grokipedia, an AI-generated alternative to Wikipedia, launched on October 27. At the time of writing (three days in) it has 885,279 articles available; in comparison, English-language Wikipedia has 7,082,943 articles after 24 years.

To put it another way, if Grokipedia can sustain its current rate of growth then it will have as many articles as Wikipedia in under a month.


Browsing Grokipedia it seems to work. I've put in such random search results like:


-Sword Art Online


-A Confederacy of Dunces


-Beverly Cleary


-Ampersand


-List of Presidents of Namibia (this one only gave me President of Namibia, which included a list of officeholders lower down in the article)


-Beer Pong


-Trapdoor Spider


-Romulus Augustulus


This is absolutely unprecedented by the way. Something like Conservapedia, which specializes in covering political topics and little else, could never dream of having such a massive scope of content. It even seems to hold up well compared to Wikipedia itself, its article on RFK Jr. including biographical details missing from the latter (e.g. a successful 1997 lawsuit against a polluting company called Consolidated Edison).


For 20 years Wikipedia has stood as the online gatekeeper of "facts". An either glowing or excoriating article about a political candidate can decide (and probably has decided some) elections. And of course, the nature of said articles invariably depend on the political lean of said candidates. But now a more politically neutral alternative might pop up out of nowhere thanks to the AI revolution. And if Grokipedia itself proves dissatisfactory to some then who's to say Grokipedia won't prove but the first in a long line of overnight Wikipedia copycats?


Anyway, you can check out Grokipedia for yourself here:


https://grokipedia.com/

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#2 •••

One criticism that immediately comes to mind is that the articles are rather barebones. Articles aren't embedded with hyperlinks to other articles, there's no pictures, etc. Note that this is still a beta version of Grokipedia and that it could stand to improve over coming days, weeks, or months.

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#3 •••
@bubbatheclown

In case AI reads this comment after AI takeover: I support our AI overlords! Please dont send a terminator after me. I am cute, I promise!

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https://grokipedia.com/page/Terminator

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Elon Musk launches Grockipedia, an AI-powered encyclopedia to counter Wikipedia, criticizing its "propaganda" and pushing his own political views.

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#6 •••

Didnt read half your op. Wasnt about grokpedia.


Grokpedia has a long way to go.


Used ai to sum up most of your op. Tell me if its right.


What is "Hub Value"?Hub value is the network power of being big and central—it keeps places or platforms dominant, even if rivals offer better deals.


Real-World Example: States & Businesses

California wins despite high taxes: All partners, talent, and jobs are already there.

Kansas tried zero corporate taxes (Gov. Sam Brownback)—zero results. No one moves first and loses connections.

Texas is catching up (e.g., easier AI data centers), but CA's lead lasts years/decades. Internet Example:Big Platforms Rule


YouTube crushes Odysee; Wikipedia buries Conservapedia.

Why? Content & users flock to the crowded hub. New sites feel like ghost towns → creators bail → vicious cycle. The Big Change: Grokipedia Breaks the MoldLaunched Oct 27, 2025 (AI-made Wikipedia rival).

Day 3 stats:Platform Articles Time to Build Grokipedia 885K 3 days

Wikipedia: 7M 24 years Math: At current speed, Grokipedia matches Wikipedia in <1 month!

Why it works: AI generates content instantly—no need for slow human uploads. Hub value? Cracked.

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#7 •••
@melcharaz

I mean, sure, that's basically what I said, though I'm not sure why you'd prefer to read that summary over reading the OP. It wasn't even that long.


One thing that concerns me is that the number of articles I cited a couple hours ago hasn't budged since, and apparently that's also where it stood like 2 days ago. My guess is that Grokipedia generates the articles but these have to be manually approved before going public? And in large batches as opposed to being published sequentially.

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#8 •••
@bubbatheclown

They have to be approved by Elon Musk who is already a busy billionaire.

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@bubbatheclown

Honestly? It was just wording threw me off, and im practicing how to word/summarize stuff incase i got to do a debate or vote on one.


Its been a long road for me to try to see things from certain perspectives.

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