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#1

Some of the standards of how a debate should be done is getting weird, there should be a guideline on what makes the debate to win or lose.

Should the title account for it? Or should the description be unchallengable? Does arguementation have to include certain patterns of wording? What logical fallacies should end a debate?

I ask this because apparently there is people who believe that every syllogism must be agreed with, or that descriptions are somehow not the guideline of the debate and determine the burden of proof?

Why do we get a voting rubric but not a debate rubric?

I recommend if one is established that it is pinned under debatecraft forum.

I am not saying we need to make an ironclad can or cant to qualify/win a debate, i am advocating a guideline that people can refer to on structuring the debate. Topic creation quiz is not enough, as people forget it.

I also ask/recommend the voting rubric and topic rubric be pinned in debatecraft forum to refer to.

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Some of the standards of how a debate should be done is getting weird, there should be a guideline on what makes the debate to win or lose. Should the title account for it? Or should the description be unchallengable? Does arguementation have to include certain patterns of wording? What logical fallacies should end a debate? I ask this because apparently there is people who believe that every syllogism must be agreed with, or that descriptions are somehow not the guideline of the debate and determine the burden of proof? Why do we get a voting rubric but not a debate rubric? I recommend if one is established that it is pinned under debatecraft forum. I am not saying we need to make an ironclad can or cant to qualify/win a debate, i am advocating a guideline that people can refer to on structuring the debate. Topic creation quiz is not enough, as people forget it. I also ask/recommend the voting rubric and topic rubric be pinned in debatecraft forum to refer to.

#2

there are things true by definition and things which arent true by definition. If a debater fails to establish a priori definition premises, it should count as a loss. there is simply no logical way a debater can lose a debate proved true by definitions, as well as no logical way a debater can win a debate without establishing truth by definition. In simple terms, if debater doesnt win semantics, he has lost a debate because without semantics, nothing is true.

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#3

Not sure what you are referring to.

If you are recommending rules about defintions, then i suggest you make certain they are agreed upon?

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#4

You literally cannot think without definitions. It is not possible to make a deductive argument without a definition. If definitions arent agreed to, there is nothing to even debate about. Its like me debating about apples while you debate about oranges.

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Again. No idea what you are referring to.

Make sure definitions are defined and agreed upon then?

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@melcharaz

there should be a guideline on what makes the debate to win or lose

There's gonna be way more backlash to any guideline we pick than to not having it. People have different debating styles, and there are more possible ways a debate can go than any guideline could anticipate. Victory is up to voters, basically, but they have to weigh arguments. Optimal system in my view is to force voters to be impartial and leave it up to them beyond that. Although whiteflame has a pretty consistent school of thought, and he will probably be very willing to explain how he decides who to vote for.

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@Savant

Can we at least have the rubric on the forums, like for voting and topics?

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@melcharaz

I agree that would be helpful. Hopefully we will get to it soon.

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#9

Didn't we already pledge to the guideline on Dart that Wylted put up?

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@Skipper

Dart is irrelevant, this is debatecraft.

New owner, new approach.

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@melcharaz

I'll still be debating largely the same tbh.

SatanLucy has the right idea about how to debate

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