Debate Voting Advice

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I will be voting on ALL of the debates in this tournament.

That's a promise.


Now in the past, the lack of voters may have been a problem. Or cramming in a vote before the judging timeline expired may have presented a problem, and I'm assuming that all would-be or potential voters were overwhelmed and burned out by this process.

So I'm going to suggest an obvious a solution.


Know which debates you plan to vote on ahead of time. And have several google docs open for each of those debates, and begin the voting process while the debate is going on to give yourself a headstart.

Rather than attempting to do all the work when the debate is finished.


If you wait until the very end, you're going to be frustrated and try to speed through the work it takes to vote. And you're going to miss like 90% of the debate. But if you vote AS the debate is going on, you only have to commit to memorizing 1 or 2 arguments at a time. So keeping a recap, and reminders of both sides in a google doc will save you time, effort, and work.


If you have a tournament debate that is currently active, please submit the link to it here in this thread for me to keep track.

I don't wish to miss any.

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@LancelotDuLac

https://www.debatecraft.com/debates/d/a0/resolved-democracies-ought-to-prioritize-the-protection-of-civil-liberties-over-national-security-when-the-two-are-in-conflict

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@LancelotDuLac
But if you vote AS the debate is going on, you only have to commit to memorizing 1 or 2 arguments at a time


I dont memorize arguments, I just copy paste them side by side and weight by weighing system. tho I cant say I enjoy voting. It is probably least rewarding part of debating, because it takes a lot of work to do it right. If I miss something, and debater challenges it, then I have to re-write my vote. Also, my memory is bad, so I do have to divide debate onto main points and definitions. No way I can remember 10000 characters.

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@SatanLucy

Memory is a skill, and like any skill, can be improved.

Some parts of an argument you will have to commit to memory.

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The timeline issue isn't that big of an issue from my experience. If the window expires and you just ask for another ultrarated to vote on, it'll give you the same debate to vote on if the slot is still open. But otherwise not terrible advice.


Ideally debaters are doing a good enough job in class and crystallization so that judges don't have to work that hard when making their votes, but sometimes things are just muddy.

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@Alyssa

True.

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@Alyssa
Alyssa wrote:
The timeline issue isn't that big of an issue from my experience. If the window expires and you just ask for another ultrarated to vote on, it'll give you the same debate to vote on if the slot is still open. But otherwise not terrible advice.


Yup, I've done this so can confirm.


Ideally debaters are doing a good enough job in class and crystallization so that judges don't have to work that hard when making their votes, but sometimes things are just muddy.


As someone who hasn't always done the greatest job crystallizing a debate and a voter on many debates that don't have it, I'd say it's pretty ideal but also something everyone should learn to do and do well. I've seen some debates turn on a really good final round, and voters always appreciate having to do as little work as possible.

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