Ishtar Bentov vid about his Torus ideas

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I watched this { vid with Julian Barbour on time } before and some today, and it led me to another curt interview about Ramnujan mutant mathmatician vid, and then to a Penrose, then to this Ishtar Bentov vid. Been a wild ride this last couple of hours. ๐Ÿค” Of course Im partial to the torus because of since my 90's explorations of prime numbers eventually led me to my space and time torus scenarios. ๐Ÿ™€

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhK2Kwd3r8s

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@ebuc

I fully agree with the video, and especially useful knowledge for my magic work.


You see, much like explanation in video says, what happens to you in your life is largely if not fully product of what you already feel is achieved.


this is where most people fail. Because most people have desires, but they at same time dont believe their desires are achieved, which is why their desires dont get achieved at all.


It is not enough to have desire. One must also have conviction and act as if desire is already realized.


So it is not "I want to be a millionaire", but "I am a millionaire" which logically equals someone being a millionaire when believed as true.

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@SatanLucy

If you already believe you are a millionaire then your desires will leave you and reality will take over.

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@Debby

Reality bends to faith. If you believe you are not a millionaire, you wont be.


People try to apply logic, but logic doesnt actually work in the world. Sure, logic might tell you: "there are steps to becoming a millionaire, take these steps to become a millionaire". the problem is, however, that reality is shaped by faith, and not by logic. It is faith, full conviction in success, which creates effort necessary to succeed. Because if you believe you will fail, you likewise wont make effort to succeed.


And if you believe you already succeeded, success comes naturally.


Human brain, likewise, was shown to better achieve something after it already believes it achieved it. (similar to Placebo effect).

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@SatanLucy

So you are still under the placebo effect.

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@Debby

If you dont believe you succeeded, you wont ever succeed. Belief of being successful must come before success itself. thats how all plans work. You dont make plan if you dont already believe it will be successful. But belief in already being successful before it even happens is a greater form of magic.

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@SatanLucy

But getting others to believe you are successful is a harder task. They look at facts and not the placebo effect.

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Your Brain Ia Moving Along the Surface of a Torus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ujnZcaqf-4


Really?


Go to 31:53 in this vid from the Pi man with his Most Beautiful Formula Not Enough People Understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsLh-NYhOoU&t=24s


If you watch further in the link above, you see this all goes back to XYZ cube vs a 3D sphere inside the cube, and the cube is always larger than the sphere. And in higher dimensions, --as AI does-- we appear to be just adding to the 8 corners/vertexes of a cube. Or in 2D, four corners/vertexes of a square ex A1 A2 A3 A4.


Or in 1D, two terminal end points. A1---------A2


So in the vid he shows how the Gaussian gamma function for the volume of higher dimentional spheres, goes to infinity ergo, effectively zero.


So my interpreation of this in relation to higher dimensional cube is infinity set of corners/vertexes and that is opposite of zero, however, since where deaing with a 1D line, were increasing the terminal end points. Say what? How can we have more than just two terminal end points on a line?


Im not a mathmatician, yet what seems obvious to me, is that were just having a line subdivided into many shorter duration { time SergeantLynch would say } of lines A1---A2---A3---A4--- etc


Then if I say, this infinite subdivision of the line is just the eternal subdivision of time going forward it looks like this:


A1--->A2--->A3---A4---> eternally Ok? Sure fine by me for some kind of abstract linear time.


Well what if this abstract linear time is associated with 3D occupied space? Two options:


1} surface of sphere, and the linear line of time is bent as a geodesic of points on surface of a spherical that defines any frequency of polygon. A1-->A2--->A3--->---A4--->A5 and here I want to start reversing because in the latter Pi vid above, he mentions how with generalized formula, and Gaussian Gamma function, at at 5, the higher dimensions have reached their peak, and start moving toward infinity, effectively zero.


...1a} in regards to this we may interprete our above bent numerical line, going around back to meet itself, or, not meeting itself because twisted/bent in another direction and just misses itself, and now it keeps just missing itself, as it goes around and around definning more and more polygons eternally. There is more we could address with that scenario, or,


...1b} the line is also bent/twisted and going inward as in death spiral --think black hole singularity-- tho again, back the vid effectivly zero, tho infinitely is not truly zero, just eternally subdividing itself abstractly or if in occupied space, shorter and shorter line dimensions aka eternal micro subdivision of space.


2} AI--->---A2--->A3----A4--->A5 abstract time and occupied space time is inside of a torus or the whole torus as a 3D vector having maginitude and direction. Now we enter into Ebuc's toroidal space and time tori scenarios.


....i.e. a numerical sequence, that, after A5 moves toward zero, at least with the sphere cube ideas. In the Pi vid above he only briefly mentions the torus via the Archimedes cylinder as potentially{?} curved as a torus.


...2a} with the torus, if we stay on the surface, we can say that the time line as occupied space, becomes a spiral and just misses itself as it goes around, tho eventually it will have to cross itself. Or so I envision it do so. Or maybe there is a way the spiral just becomes higher and micro-infinite subdivision of the torus surface.


....2b} keeping the numerical sequence, I suggest there is a radical departure of the time line only on surface, and suggest that, --in the case of occupied space-- there occurs and invagination at ...2p....5p...8.....11p...14....to internal aspect of the torus. Why, because opposites attract. Polarity and in this case it is the diametric polarity of two peaks of two kinds of curved space we find with a torus and not with a sphere/spherical.


....positive and negative curvature ...( )( ).... Gravity and Dark Energy and between these two we have observed time line as a sine-wave identified with


0..........6.........12...........18 etc......>

......3p.......9..........15...........etc....>


Well why cant this happen on a sphere/spherical. Well it can if magnetic charge{ spin? } exists --Earth magnetosphere--.

..is this a 2nd torus seperate from our original 1D line? Yes and no because there is interfernce fields patterns, to some degree?........


And there is another kind of opposite charge{ spin? } called the electric charge.

.....is there a third torus seperate from our original 1D line? Yes and no because there is interference of field patterns? To some degree?.....


Does occupied space have more than one, continous 1D field line? Is it all connected as one unified { finite } Universe?









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DI....' We present, for the first time, a class of analytic kinetic equilibria of collisionless tori around a Kerr black hole. We have successfully implemented the collisionless tori in our GPU-based GRPIC code framework Aperture, and found them to be stable for hundreds to thousands of dynamical times in 2D axisymmetric simulations when there is no initial seed magnetic field. These kinetic equilibria serve as ideal starting points for future studies of the physics of collisionless accretion and jet launching. '


Potential for sending rockets into space using electro-magnetics.

https://arxiv.org/html/2508.09077v2





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@ebuc

This will be helpful information to Elon Musk for SpaceX.

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