What, truly, is death?

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We say that we experience death, but who among us, who remain among us once a loved-one, or, in fact, anyone "dies?" Do they really experience death as an event as noteworthy as drssing in unfamiliar clothing, or eating entirely different substances? What does it feel like to our various senses? Do we see in a different spectrum of color, or is it just black and white? Since we who remain are alive, our experience is not death as we understand that term. I believe most Asian religions also believe in at least spiritual if not a physical bodily afterlife. In both cases, then, death is not a permanent condition. Only some atheists believe in the end of life at death; oblivion, but I know a number of atheists who do not believe life ends at death.


Abrahamic religions firmly believe in the physical, bodily resurrection, so death is only a temporary bodily separation.


Therefore, what is death, really, but a passage from one realm to another, like walking through a door to another room, or a place different than this world with which we have become familiar. Is walking through a doorway really a noteworthy, memorable "experience" like going to another country and culture, or is it not even that?


Thoughts?

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#2 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

Fertilization is syntropic biodiversity via sex.


Birthed-out of womb or other bacterial ways multiplication/reproduction of genetics, is continuation of syntropy.


Death is entropic decay of biologic life integrity, and,

....the highest decay of the biologic integrity would be converting of all matter of integrity,

....becoming bacteria or minerals, and perhaps bone/calcium falls into the catagory.


...> Calcium = 20 protons, 20 neutrons and 20 electrons. AI..' Calcium is highly stable in its natural isotopic and ionic forms, but chemically, it is one of the most reactive elements in pure metallic form '..https://mineralseducationcoalition.org/elements/calcium/


In 90's Fred Holy stated in his book The Intelligent Universe, that, if bacteria were left unchecked in the reproduction, the rapidity of their genetics would equal the mass of the Universe --at that time of writing the book for known Universe--- in 6 months.



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#3 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

No one knows what happens after death. tho a lot of people pretend they know with pure certainty something which they have no way of observing or logically deducing.

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#4 β€’β€’β€’
@SatanLucy

Jesus knew for certain, and told us about it, both before, in mortal life, and after his resurrection. You look it up. Several hundred people around him also knew for certain, for they witnessed him among them after watching him die on the cross. You can look that up, too, including Tyler texts that tell us the the universe expands exponentially, to the room necessary for bacterial genetics expansion...

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#5 β€’β€’β€’
@ebuc

I think I made it clear in my #1 that I am speaking of human life, only, though I do believe that all mortal life born on Earth will resurrect to immortality.

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#6 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

Nah

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#7 β€’β€’β€’
@SatanLucy

Even the Egyptian Book of the Dead, aka Spells for Coming Forth by Day declares physical resurrection is the purpose of mortal life; that according to Ra, Osiris, Horus, Thoth, and others.

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#8 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

That's just more of "oh lets pretend we know".

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#9 β€’β€’β€’
@SatanLucy
"oh lets pretend we know".


No, that is merely thinking we are limited to 5 or less senses [some of us have >5 senses] that are the basis of scientific, empirical proof, or do you think science is also just what we think we know, and that there is no real body of knowledge of anything.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

So you are talking about something you never saw, and trying to convince me that what you never saw is real because "feelings told you" which apparently are exclusive to you between the two of us? Yeah.

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#11 β€’β€’β€’
@SatanLucy

Correct. Sight is not my only empirical sense.

As for your assumption, apparently, yes, again, because I know how to read all the senses I possess, and apparently you admit you don't know how to do your own reading of self. It is an acquired taste, after all.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#12 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

Non existence is a tough concept.


So we invent coping strategies.


Though as ever, we cannot disprove that which cannot be proven...Or vice versa.


But we did invent coping strategies.

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#13 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

If you are the only one with such sense between the two of us, then no way to prove it to me.

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@SergeantLynch

There's a better strategy than coping. It's called "Do, or do not. There is no try." This is from the prophet, Yoda. It's a bit like the Son of God, who said "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect." Some think that is impossible, which is just coping. It is not impossible, it's just difficult. Tough shyte. We either do difficult things, or we cope. I choose tough.


Perfection seems impossible only because we think it's a troday>tomorrow thing. No. Today, do something better than yesterday. Then tomorrow, better still. In industry, it's called "continuous improvement." It's a very practical approach, because it's also thinking that perfection is not a destination, but a process. A never-ending process. It always has been a process, worked at daily. There are things which are done perfectly, right now, but not all things. Next week, the growth is measurable in some things, while others remain the same. But, gradual progress is made and measurable.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@SatanLucy

Because I am not the only one with such sense [maybe just the only pone who has told you, but I'm not everyone else], others have also thought this way, and first prove it to themselves, and then others who are willing to do it themselves. As I cited to Seargantlynch just above, "Do, or do not. There is no try," and "Be ye therefore perfect..." Don't be intimidated by such advice, just go do it. It's a never-ending process on which there is progress, slow and steady. There are things you do perfectly, now. Just go grow by doing more.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

Yep, as I always say, material progress or evolution is an inevitable process.


And process and progress, imply a start and an end, at some point in the distant past and at some point in the distant future.


So here we are, thinking species, a brief phase within the process, more than likely to be surpassed by a less fragile, alternative thinker.


Though maybe intelligence is just an inconsequential and unnecessary glitch...Or maybe not...What is certain is that neither you nor I know.


And so we think and speculate and cope for a brief moment of Universal time... And at some point perhaps, we achieve an even briefer moment of transient perfection.





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#17 β€’β€’β€’
@SergeantLynch
What is certain is that neither you nor I know.


I've been telling you just the opposite all along; such things can be known. We are endowed with more senses than the five we currently recognize. There are other animals who have our five senses, but have more. you really think we do not have access to them, as well? Nonsense. We just need to learn how to use them.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#18 β€’β€’β€’
@fauxlaw

Well for sure I'm suitably aware of organic systems, though like you not an expert.


And so mind is a developed sense, and the greater mass has inherent senses.


And so it's fair to suggest that the mass is fully aware of how to use all it's sensory capabilities, though we as individuals are never fully mentally aware of their function and how they function.


Though what some individuals have a tendency to do, is to mentally construct unverifiable certainties, which of course is a contradiction in terms.

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#19 β€’β€’β€’

Sorry, I am slightly confused...are we asking what is death or what comes after it?

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@CSDebate27

Death is the end of one’s individual consciousness. The soul reverts back to collective consciousness.

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