Three primary catagorys for defining God:
1} eternally existent, abstract, meta-space concepts/mind/intelligence, that complements the following two,
2} eternally existent, macro-infinite truly non-occupied space existent outside/beyond of following,
3} eternally existent, finite, dynamic, occupied space Universe @
Truth frees us from a false narrative
Macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space, has no outer shape and is only inner shape where it meet the dynamic boundary of finite Universe.
Hmmm, astronomers estimate there are about 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe. Isn't that proof of no God?
Isn't that proof of no God?
Read my definitions of God and see if your concerns apply to those presented definitions.
Simply put God is the creator of the Universe.
Yes, such is the putting of simpletons.
Though their explanations for GODDO's pre universal existence are a tad thin on the ground.
Because if there was somewhere before there was somewhere......Then?
BeforeGod there was just empty space. There had to be empty space for God to fill with the creation of the Universe.
Yes, analogically true perhaps.
Though whatever from nowhere, is still creating something from nothing.
It's all the same conundrum whichever hypothesis one favours.
I would suggest that a material beginning followed by a long period of material development gets us to where we are today.
And a very short while ago in terms of material development, thinking primate invented thinking primate GOD.
If it wasn't for a gert great asteroid hitting the gulf of Mexico, it would perhaps have been a thinking reptilian GOD.
So yes, call it GOD...But it wasn't a magic bloke what did it 6000 years ago.
It’s more than magic, it’s called a miracle.
Well definitively, I suppose that real magic would be miraculous.
So something from nothing is seemingly miraculous, if we loosely apply the word with a corresponding loose definition.
Though such concepts didn't become available until 14 billion years after the event.
We still don't know is perhaps the honest conclusion.
The events were recorded only after humans learned to read and write.
Hmmmmm...I would suggest that the post-recording of events introduces human fallibility to the equation...And a whole lot of imagination.
It made it possible to share their conclusions. That is how we have over 2 billion Christians today.
Yes, generational data transfer and infant brainwashing for sure...Doesn't prove that the ideology is based upon fact though.
It takes an adult to read the Bible. You are thinking about your nursery rhymes.
Well, I certainly remember the old folk tales and fairy stories were were told as kiddies...Such is formative conditioning.
And yes, if an adult wishes to read "The Bible", then it will undoubtedly take them to do it...Such is a truism.
Don’t forget you also need the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you.
Nope, I never touch spirits...Only the very occasional bottle of beer or glass of wine...Though I perhaps drink too much tea.
But yes you're right, those old time Middle Eastern shaman types were definitely off their heads on something.
The Middle East is the seat of some of the oldest civilizations. Egyptian, Mesopotamia.
Civilizations as in cultural collectives with developed infrastructure.
Which given their location, should not be surprising.
There are much older collectives with their own cultures...Australian Aborigines are an interesting bunch...How did they get there?...And they predate Abe's GOD by some 45,000 years... They must also have survived the big flood...Just as most Southern and Central African indigenes must have...Interesting that.
But their presence did not change the direction of the world which was guided by God.
Well, intellectual, social and material development was what it was and became what it became, that is a truism...Though without predecessors there would have been no successors, nor a popular but naive GOD hypothesis that very latterly became the basis of human social development.
Though for billions of years prior to the human development of the GOD hypothesis the direction of the world would have been basically the same as it is today, as dictated by it's local star, namely the Sun...So the SUN is our immediate guiding presence...Beyond the SUN, we can only guess at...And some plump for the magic-man guess.
God created the universe including the Sun, so we are destined as his creation to follow the laws he established.
Well, the Christian magic man of Middle Eastern folk tales didn't create the universe; though nominally the principle of creation and material evolution could be regarded as the GOD principle...But don't confuse them Debs.
The Bible tells us God created the universe and then rested on the 7th day.
Yep, "The Bible" is full of all sorts of nonsense tales.
Religion was born out of the fear of death. Death is the one insoluble human problem. It strikes fear into the hearts of all people. We would do anything to make it go away, including inventing supernatural beings who promise everlasting life in some distant and invisible kingdom. And, seeking solace, we would fiercely cling to that belief. In the act of worshiping gods you and your family might survive a little bit longer and live a bit better. The world was full of dangerous and inexplicable things like storms, floods, droughts, volcanoes etc. It was attractive to suppose that there were individual human-like beings causing them, particularly if you could influence them in some way (e.g. by sacrificing an animal, or by just telling them how wonderful they are very often).
In the whole animal kingdom, we humans are the only creatures aware of death. “The fear of death is worse than death,” wrote Robert Burton, in The Anatomy of Melancholy (1621). Long before this, Aristotle had argued that we should learn to accept death as a part of life. The simple view held by most atheists and humanists, and myself, is that once dead we are dead, despite the fact that more than half of the public in the UK and US believe in life after death, for which there is zero reliable evidence. Reports of near-death experiences, which are quite common, are essentially mystical, and tell us nothing about death itself. Fear of death occurs in some children as young as three years old. But very young children think of death as being like going to sleep, not as something final.
Religion was born to deal with life before and after death. Jesus became the path to salvation and a model for the living.
Religion is the opiate for poor design.
You were a member of the PTL Club, weren't you?
That is not a Catholic show.
