Relative to land dominion, rule of law historically dominated over individual and group claim | Forum

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There is a constant argument in America that indigenous tribes should have retained land authority over the colonists' claims of sovereignty. This issue is not unique to America. All over the world, this conflict has plagued humanity. Civilization has meant conflict in land domination, even when the world population was much smaller than today, when land was abundant all over the world, [frankly, it still is, but that's another subject] and until sovereignty organized nation-states.

Both Western and Eastern civilizations from antiquity [Greece in the West; China in the East] up to and perhaps even earlier than 5,000 years ago when written language, the root of civilization, began, primarily with Sumarian Cuneiform and Old Kingdom Egyptian hieroglyphs. Language allowed the creation of society, and society quickly learned that rule of law needed to be developed, including what constituted nation-states from random collections of populations. Rule of law created sovereignty.

This is why the indigenous peoples [tribes] failed to establish sovereignty, because they did not develop organized, written rule of law, and the colonists did. Until the 1960's, they continued to refer to themselves by their tribal names, and not as cohesive, unified "Native Americans."

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There is a constant argument in America that indigenous tribes should have retained land authority over the colonists' claims of sovereignty. This issue is not unique to America. All over the world, this conflict has plagued humanity. Civilization has meant conflict in land domination, even when the world population was much smaller than today, when land was abundant all over the world, [frankly, it still is, but that's another subject] and until sovereignty organized nation-states. Both Western and Eastern civilizations from antiquity [Greece in the West; China in the East] up to and perhaps even earlier than 5,000 years ago when written language, the root of civilization, began, primarily with Sumarian Cuneiform and Old Kingdom Egyptian hieroglyphs. Language allowed the creation of society, and society quickly learned that rule of law needed to be developed, including what constituted nation-states from random collections of populations. Rule of law created sovereignty. This is why the indigenous peoples [tribes] failed to establish sovereignty, because they did not develop organized, written rule of law, and the colonists did. Until the 1960's, they continued to refer to themselves by their tribal names, and not as cohesive, unified "Native Americans."

We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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The native weapons like bows and arrows were no match for the muskets and cannons used by the colonists. Their written language were no match for the determination of the Europeans to occupy their land.

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I'd figure oral law and traditions would still be a thing though?

And there were probably connected tribes/regions in North America?

It's not as if Europe 'always managed to unite against outside world, lots of infighting and failures to unite against outside aggressions.

Aztecs and Inca had writing systems.

I really think the 'biggest problem for the Native Americans was disease and technology difference.

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I can see how written law is really useful to nations,

But still, The Mongols lacked a written language until after they conquered China.

I imagine many of the barbarians that overwhelmed Rome, lacked 'written law.

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While Mesoamerica [Maya, Aztec] had sophisticated written language, north of Mexico, the indigenous tribes had virtually no phonetic or logographic written language. It was oral tradition. They used colored beads and tied knots by which to leave counting and measurement records, and ideograms on cave and mountain surfaces, but little else than oral language.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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The fact that a few languages like English, French, Spanish, Chinese dominate the world languages spoken proved language was not equally developed around the world.

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