What are your top three reasons for voting for trump?

Americans have been subsidizing and regulating companies since their FDR days. Why is it a surprise in 2026 to discover that the government regularly has partial or full control of private corporations? Stocks are just another way to subsidize and regulate, although not as strong as outright regulation. Biden practically used the government to create what we see as modern-day Tesla with hundreds of billions in subsidies. Government has effectively owned and controlled the USA corn farms since 1933 with around 500 billion spent on corn farms since 1933. Basically directing farms to grow corn and purchasing compliance with dollars.

When Communism sweeps across the USA, the government will just take ownership instead of throwing money in exchange for compliance.

 Is making our society less brown really that important to you? Do you have nothing better to worry about?

There are brown capitalists and brown communists. There's only one type of brown people that your Democrats really want.

Cuban capitalist refugees being attacked by Democrats for not remaining communists is Exhibit A. Democrats assumed those brown refugees would be compliant communistas, but got a rude shock at the ballot box.

68% of Cuban Refugees voted Trump, versus 23% for Harris.

Fucking brown people, amirite?

Cool, so they can add billions to their home nations across the globe so nobody else has to. All for one globally. Like Communism. No more nation eats another nation's best people. Survival of the best swimmers doesn't have to be a thing.

One planet Spaceship Earth, with relatively thin atmosphere to protect all of us ionizing radiation, infra-red frequencies, and the semi-non-occupied space vacuum.

....Spiritual way forward for all people and the ecological systems that sustain them is all for one and one for all.

Pope and maybe a few others of authority speak of sense of this all for one and one for all approach for humanities future.

....Less spiritual way forward is survival of the fittest via who are best barbarians. Ex turn off Ukraines access to satelite information that would aid them from incoming weapons of war. Russia wants Ukraine, and Trump/MAGA appears to be on board with this survival of the fittest, unnecessary barbarism.

MAGA doesnt need three reasons to vote for Trump. Survival of the fittest is about who will survive and prosper. MAGA chooses the King Trump wanna-be/Putin/Kim Ung-Pooh side. China has finnished the bridge connectic N. Korea to China, that they China provided most of the cost.

...' The growth in human populations and technological development can be linked [37] to resource consumption, and the propensity for humans to destroy forest ecosystems gives a high probability (>90%) that global civilisation is very likely to suffer a catastrophic collapse in future (within a few decades). The current extinction event also differs in that it is driven by the concurrence of phenomena unique to human actions including changes in land and sea use; direct exploitation of animals and plants; climate change; pollution; and invasive alien species [38]. It is also characterised by unique Anthropocene features, such as the introduction of a global ‘plastics cycle’ [39], which pose an as-yet unknown threat to the stability of global ecosystems, and by extension, complex human civilisation. '...

https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/13/15/8161

Russia >{ Romans are coming Romans are coming }< and which side does USA choose? No access to our satellite info. Or as Trump told Zelenksyy early on, you dont have the winning hand, and Trump likes winners only. Ex his comments on John McCain POW loser. Yet MAGA voted in Trump as the winner for USA in the ongoing survival of the fittest MAGA revolution.

Seek truth to free ourselves from a false narrative

and the propensity for humans to destroy forest ecosystems gives a high probability (>90%) that global civilisation is very likely to suffer a catastrophic collapse in future (within a few decades). 

🌳 The Holy Church of Saving the Trees 🌳

The Gospel According to Saint Recyclius, Patron Saint of Paper Straws

Chapter 1: Original Sin

And lo, mankind discovered paper.

And the High Priests proclaimed: "Every sheet you use is another tree sacrificed!"

The faithful wept, unaware that trees could be grown again.

Chapter 2: The Coming Apocalypse

The prophets warned: "Soon there shall be no trees!"

When informed that forests could regenerate and commercial timber was frequently grown as a renewable crop, the prophets replied:

"Silence! You are interfering with the sermon!"

Chapter 3: The Sacred Sacrifice

And the faithful abandoned paper bags for plastic bags to save the trees.

Years later, the priests declared plastic an abomination.

The faithful returned to paper bags.

And nobody mentioned the first sermon.

Chapter 4: The Holy Indulgence

For the modest price of $4.99, the faithful could purchase a reusable shopping bag bearing the sacred inscription:

"I Am Saving the Planet."

Whether the bag was ever reused was irrelevant.

The purchase itself constituted absolution.

Chapter 5: The Heresy of Forestry

A heretic approached the altar and declared:

"Your Holiness, couldn't we harvest trees sustainably and plant new ones?"

The High Priest gasped.

"Are you suggesting trees are a renewable resource?"

"Yes, Your Holiness."

"GUARDS!"

Chapter 6: The Sacred Scripture

And the prophet proclaimed:

"Thou shalt not print an email, for each page brings the forests closer to extinction."

The faithful nodded solemnly while ordering seventeen cardboard boxes from Amazon.

Chapter 7: Salvation

And the faithful were promised eternal ecological salvation through three sacred commandments:

1. Thou shalt recycle thy paper.
2. Thou shalt purchase products displaying a green leaf.
3. Thou shalt never inquire whether the environmental benefit has actually been measured.

The Final Revelation

And the forestry scientist spoke:

"Your Holiness, sustainable forestry is real, and the world has not run out of trees."

The High Priest replied:

"Then why have we been collecting donations for forty years?"

And there was silence throughout the congregation.

Amen. And may your carbon footprint be forgiven. 🌳😂

MAGA chooses the King Trump 

Huh? Petty mind offers petty thoughts on humanity and Spaceship Earth.

...Vote survival of the fittest... ---obviously on the ballot as Vote the winning winners take all hand---

...Vote all for one and one for all.... --not on the ballot, and may never be---

...Or, no vote at all....

Not all humans have that choice, or feel that their choice will matter, or be corrupted { Banna Repbulic history? } and many others Im surce

Shoresy wrote:

Americans have been subsidizing and regulating companies since their FDR days. Why is it a surprise in 2026 to discover that the government regularly has partial or full control of private corporations? Stocks are just another way to subsidize and regulate, although not as strong as outright regulation. Biden practically used the government to create what we see as modern-day Tesla with hundreds of billions in subsidies. Government has effectively owned and controlled the USA corn farms since 1933 with around 500 billion spent on corn farms since 1933. Basically directing farms to grow corn and purchasing compliance with dollars.

When Communism sweeps across the USA, the government will just take ownership instead of throwing money in exchange for compliance.

Besides, it's very typical from a government to subsidize companies, it's a way to protect the national industry. This is not communism at all, we can call it protectionism though.

Double_R wrote:

The only law republicans passed this term was to give Trump billions of dollars to fund his militarization of ice so they can continue occupying US cities, which is exactly the point I made to start this thread when I said all they've done is lay down while Trump tramples on the constitution.

And guess what, at last count Trump was still behind Obama and I believe even Biden on actual deportations. As usual, Trump is all about the show, he couldn't care less about actually governing, which is why he's always falling sleep in the oval office.

Besides, I'm really curious to know why you think it's a positive thing that we're spending more money on ice than most country's spend on their militaries just to round up farm workers and nannies. Aren't you folks on the political right supposed to be about small government, fiscal responsibility and anti tyranny? Is making our society less brown really that important to you? Do you have nothing better to worry about?

I'm not here to defend Trump. If you have a personal issue with him, that's your problem.

What matters here is that the new inmigration policies have worked. Don't you remember when herds of illegals tried to cross the border and once in American soil old Joe sent them a bus convoy to take them to the big cities and lodge them in 5-star hotels instead of just kicking them out? I mean, what da fk!!

I know you hate Trump but your hatress can't be over your patriotism. Thanks to those inmigration policies the borders are calm. Those images of inmigration agents trying to stop the illegal inmigrants from entering the US are now in the past. You can live peacefully and you've got to thank Trump for that. Don't be so ungrateful.

It's actually state control over private industry. Governments have been doing it globally since before WW II, they have just been extremely quiet about what they were doing.

it's a way to protect the national industry. 

It's actually a way for the government to decide what the country can or cannot produce instead of the free market. America would never consume or grow so much corn if it wasn't state-managed. Some subsidies are used to counter foreign tariffs or to destroy a rival nation's access to the global market, but most of the subsidies and regulations are straight-up "x country will produce this because x government thinks it should" ...aka economic Fascism. Communism also does this even more efficiently.

It also depends on what the local soil is best suited to grow.

I'm not here to defend Trump.

As you sit here and boast about the things he's done. But sure, go on...

What matters here is that the new inmigration policies have worked. Don't you remember when herds of illegals tried to cross the border

Worked. American citizens shot dead in the streets by ice, hundreds more illegally detained, cities being occupied by ice turning to riots, human rights violations, constitutional rights violations, and all so we can deport farm workers and nannies. If that's what you call "working" then you're just a bigot plain and simple.

And yes, I recall when people used to cross our border, because they saw the US as the shining city on the hill that Ronald Reagan boasted about. They didn't stop crossing the border because of some set of genius policy solutions Trump figured out, they stopped coming because America is no longer a place people around the world want to come to. I would know first hand, I work in tourism and our business is down over 40% because no one wants to come here. So no, I don't consider this an accomplishment.

and once in American soil old Joe sent them a bus convoy to take them to the big cities and lodge them in 5-star hotels instead of just kicking them out?

It's amazing how well propaganda works.

First of all, it wasn't Joe Biden bussing these people to big cities, that would be your republican governors like Abbott and Ron Desantis.

The 5 star thing is also grossly disingenuous, your tired old talking point purposefully makes it sound like they were living in luxury when all that was happening was that they were using the spaces that were empty because of COVID. They weren't receiving 5 star service which you dishonestly try to portray it as.

Lastly, they didn't just "kick them out" because unlike Trump they were following the law which grants asylum seekers certain rights. If you didn't like that law you know what we could have done? Change it. You know who wanted to change it? Democrats and republicans... Until Trump came along and told republicans to stop trying to fix the problem so he could campaign on it.

Turns out republicans didn't give a damn about the issue either because they realized how easily manipulable people like you are. So millions of extra illegals crossed into this country all because Trump decided his power was worth more than fixing your problem. And republicans all went along with it. But tell me more about how much more deserving they are of your vote.

Those images of inmigration agents trying to stop the illegal inmigrants from entering the US are now in the past.

And have instead been replaced by images of US citizens being shot and killed or detained by ice all because they spoke the wrong language or had the wrong skin color. Great improvement.

You can live peacefully

I was living much more peacefully before, back when I used to be able to look forward to my annual bonus.

Unlike you, I'm not afraid of someone because they are brown or speak Spanish.

I know you hate Trump but your hatress can't be over your patriotism.

My patriotism is the source of my disdain for Trump and every idiot who supports him. He's totally destroying everything that made this country stand out as the example to the rest of the civilized world. Remember when we used to shake our heads when we would look at banana republics over their use of their militaries in the streets, blatant use of government power to silence critics and weaponize their justice systems, their cartoonish corruption... And then think, wow, good thing that'll never happen here... Well it has. That's us now, and you're ok with that. That is what's amazing here.

Trump is adult figure who is trying to rig the election so he wins another term which is unconstitutional.

Unlike you, I'm not afraid of someone because they are brown or speak Spanish.

Are you afraid of brown capitalists? How about the rich ones?

He probably doesn't have enough logical sense to realize that illegally importing millions of unassimilated people from banana republics would eventually turn his country into one. Brown skin or not.

people like Double_R will take over and send USA to communist paradise.

Maybe the USA needs communism at this point. A heavy hand would surely erase the current people in power and reset the corruption by force.

Are you afraid of brown capitalists? How about the rich ones?

I'm not MAGA, my politics isn't based on fear of the other. So no, I'm not the snowflake that you guys project into the political left.

He probably doesn't have enough logical sense to realize that illegally importing millions of unassimilated people from banana republics would eventually turn his country into one.

You really thought you killed it with that one.

"Assimilate"... This has become the new buzz word for racists. But your bigotry has always been obvious so it's quite fitting.

No one is advocating to "import" millions of people into this country, the conversation is about what to do with the millions of people who are already here, many if not most of which making valuable contributions to our society, and what costs are appropriate to minimize illegal entry. But that conversation is way too sophisticated for your feeble mind, so of course it translates into this.

The fundamental source of fear that drives you is itself logically absurd. The people who flee banana republics at great risk and great cost to themselves and their families do so because they don't want to live in one, so the idea that they would all come here to turn us into one is just plain stupid.

"Assimilate"... This has become the new buzz word for racists.

Yes, racists like you take a word about culture and pretend it's about DNA.

I bet you didn't have to think very hard to do it either.

many if not most of which making valuable contributions to our society

They can make the same contributions in their homeland without worrying about the hurdles of cultural assimilation. That way everybody wins.

and what costs are appropriate to minimize illegal entry. 

That cost is already set at a $2600 reward for self-deportation. If you think that's too little or too much, explain why.

The fundamental source of fear that drives you is itself logically absurd.

The fear is mostly in the minds of the criminals breaking immigration laws.

Lawful Americans, including brown Americans, are both fatigued with the nonsense talk and resolute with the solutions.

The people who flee banana republics at great risk and great cost to themselves and their families do so because they don't want to live in one, so the idea that they would all come here to turn us into one is just plain stupid.

Clearly, that cost is not high enough to dissuade illegal crossings. Therefore, those costs must drastically increase.

If their first act is to ignore US law, that's permission to import the lawlessness of the countries they left.

I'm not MAGA, my politics isn't based on fear of the other. So no, I'm not the snowflake that you guys project into the political left.

68% of Cuban Refugees voted Trump, versus 23% for Harris

The Democratic Party's Sketchy History With Cuban-Americans

For decades, Cuban-Americans have had legitimate reasons to question whether or not Democratic politicians are out to get them.

1. Bill Clinton and Cuban Refugees (1995)

The Clinton administration introduced the wet-foot, dry-foot policy, allowing Cubans who reached American soil to remain while generally returning those intercepted at sea. This restricted an earlier, more permissive approach toward Cuban refugees.

2. The Elián González Raid (2000)

The Clinton administration sent armed federal agents into a Miami home to seize six-year-old Elián González and reunite him with his father in Cuba. Many Cuban-Americans viewed the raid as a profound betrayal of the exile community.

3. Barack Obama Ends Cuban Refugee Protections (2017)

Obama eliminated wet-foot, dry-foot and the Cuban Medical Professional Parole Program, ending special immigration protections for Cubans fleeing the communist regime. His administration argued that the change created equal treatment among migrants.

4. Bernie Sanders Praises Castro's Literacy Program (2020)

Sanders defended positive remarks about Cuba's literacy campaign under Fidel Castro, provoking criticism from Cuban-American leaders who argued that such praise overlooked the regime's repression.

5. Karen Bass and Fidel Castro (2016)

Democratic congresswoman Karen Bass referred to Castro as "Comandante en Jefe" following his death, using a title associated with the dictator. She later acknowledged that her wording was inappropriate.

6. Democratic Lawmakers Visit Cuba (2026)

Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Jonathan Jackson criticized American sanctions following a visit to Cuba. Critics in the Cuban-American community argued that their remarks gave insufficient attention to the Cuban government's own responsibility for the country's conditions.

I'd say Democrats fear more brown Cubans setting foot on US soil. And it has nothing to do with the worship or damnation of skin color.

68% of Cuban Refugees voted Trump, versus 23% for Harris

Double_R wrote:

I would know first hand, I work in tourism and our business is down over 40% because no one wants to come here. So no, I don't consider this an accomplishment.

Well, that explains all your hatred.

I'm really sorry, dude. I understand when someone messes with your source of income. What can I say? Sometimes the applied policies are so tough that people who have nothing to do with it are affected.

It's clear that Trump got carried away with it but I guess he was too desperate about the illegal inmigration that decided to take extreme decisions. It's tough but the results come quick. so don't worry, it'll pay off.

My patriotism is the source of my disdain for Trump and every idiot who supports him. He's totally destroying everything that made this country stand out as the example to the rest of the civilized world. Remember when we used to shake our heads when we would look at banana republics over their use of their militaries in the streets, blatant use of government power to silence critics and weaponize their justice systems, their cartoonish corruption... And then think, wow, good thing that'll never happen here... Well it has. That's us now, and you're ok with that. That is what's amazing here.

That's all bullshit.

The US was already seen as a banana republic thanks to old Joe. Most of the problems that Americans are facing now is because of the democrats, since Obama to be more accurate.

Obama will go down as the most successful president in American history. Obama was a constitutional scholar and the most qualified president in modern history.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ripple/2026/08/11/obama-presidential-center/

I'm really sorry, dude. I understand when someone messes with your source of income. What can I say? Sometimes the applied policies are so tough that people who have nothing to do with it are affected.

It's clear that Trump got carried away with it but I guess he was too desperate about the illegal inmigration that decided to take extreme decisions. It's tough but the results come quick. so don't worry, it'll pay off.

Don't let him fool you. One of 2 things is probably true, if not both:

1) He lives in New York, which has degraded immensely since the rise of communista Mamdani.

2) His business is heavily dependent on exploiting illegal labor from banana republics all over the world, and now that spigot is shut off, no thanks to Trump.

Trump dislikes immigrants because his own wife an immigrant does not want to have anything to do with him. But that is because she is Slovenian, whereas he is deporting Latinos.

Shoresy wrote:

Don't let him fool you. One of 2 things is probably true, if not both:

1) He lives in New York, which has degraded immensely since the rise of communista Mamdani.

2) His business is heavily dependent on exploiting illegal labor from banana republics all over the world, and now that spigot is shut off, no thanks to Trump.

He can live in California as well, the most left-leaning state in the US.

There is only one way to know it, if he answers when I ask him in Spanish, he definetily lives there.

Shoresy wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ripple/2026/08/11/obama-presidential-center/

Incredible how blind Americans are.

Yes, racists like you take a word about culture and pretend it's about DNA.

The pretending is when people like you try to mask your own bigotry by hiding behind these silly words. Assimilate and culture are words every minority has heard all their lives and knows full well what it means. You guys just don't want to say it out loud.

The reason I believe you're a racist isn't because of the words you've used to which I can't properly translate. It's because I've heard you argue your positions many times on this and racism is the only coherent through line, which is true of every immigration hardliner I've ever heard out. Still waiting for you to show you're any different.

They can make the same contributions in their homeland

This has nothing to do with the point you just responded to, but is emblematic of the issue. Sure they could, so what? Why would you phrase that as if telling someone to pack up their whole life and start over again somewhere else in a place you know has less to offer them is just an inconvenience? And why is it beneficial for us to focus our time energy and resources on this rather than the many other issues we could be addressing?

The fact that you thought that sentence alone was meaningful is telling.

That cost is already set at a $2600 reward for self-deportation. If you think that's too little or too much, explain why.

I think it's a stupid approach to immigration. If they're not doing anything wrong and are in fact contributing, it's counterproductive. If they're an actual criminal breaking serious laws then they should be arrested, not paid off. Either way it's silly.

But if your goal is to get rid of the brown people it makes sense.

Clearly, that cost is not high enough to dissuade illegal crossings. Therefore, those costs must drastically increase.

Funny how spending is no longer an issue when it comes to keeping those brown people out.

If their first act is to ignore US law, that's permission to import the lawlessness of the countries they left.

This is just incoherent nonsense.

If part of the idea here is, they're criminals because they broke the law when they came here, that's a blatantly dishonest use of the term. No one fleeing poverty and gang violence is going to stop because the sign said no entry. Them comming here alone is no indication that they have any ill intentions, and that's if you assumed that every illegal came here that way, which isn't even close to the truth.

Second, what do you mean import the lawlessness of where they came? The overwhelming majority of them were escaping that very lawlessness, so your point still ignores that fact.

Try again.

68% of Cuban Refugees voted Trump, versus 23% for Harris

The Democratic Party's Sketchy...

Blah blah blah. Not interested in your AI slop, especially when it had nothing to do with anything I've said. Try responding to the points I've actually made.