Penalty for rape

Negative - there is no moral endorsement.

So you dont even know what is should fallacy is. Damn.

Where is the 'should/ought' in the statement you highlighted?

In my argument, it was about what should be done. That was pretty much clear from start. You saying what IS done in some countries is just is ought irrelevant fallacy.

Ok, so you don't know. That concludes it.

So why is execution not murder

The same reason why imprisonment isn't kidnapping; the state gets a pass sometimes.

So if one criminal gets released without a punishment, we should release a bunch of other criminals without a punishment? I think this makes about as much sense as saying that if an innocent person gets unfairly executed, we should execute all innocent people to make it fair.

The precedent would be established by Lindsay Clancy that, "mental illness" lets you get away with murder.

It's not the precedent that I want to set. But if women want to keep rape illegal, then just kill Lindsay Clancy for murder. I don't like setting bad precedents, but if a bad precedent is set, then I will want that precedent to be carried out to a very powerful extent and if the precedent sucks, then repeal it. It's similar with gerrymandering; the dems were against it, the GOP endorsed it, Abby from Virginia is like, "I'm anti gerrymandering, but if yall insist that gerrymandering is fine, then I'll gerrymander 10x harder". I'm fine with Abigail doing that because I'm indifferent about gerrymandering; but the OP was basicly saying, "Femenists; be careful of the precedent you set."

The penalty for a man raping a woman should be the man gets raped by a machine (same for sexual assault). Eye for an eye; genital for a genital.

Rapists should get raped by a machine. Abortion; make the penalty community service; death penalty for abortion is unrealistic because abortions are common. The rarer they become, the tougher you can make the penalty; but death penalty is way too unrealistic for abortions performed before Jan 1 2027.

That's easy to do. Tell someone you're insane and you get off? Easy sacrifice.

There is state sponsored kidnapping (called imprisonment). What's the difference?

Convince the jury the same way Lindsay was able too.

Find a way for men to be as on code with other men as women are with other women.

You mean still pretending.

Rapists should get raped by a machine.

Yes.

Abortion; make the penalty community service

I was thinking more like few decades in prison.

death penalty for abortion is unrealistic because abortions are common

They are common precisely due to lack of efficient legal penalty. If women killed 1 million children per year, I wouldnt say they should merely get community service as punishment.

Also, rape is pretty common too. There are about as much rape cases per year as abortions. Something being common doesnt mean it should be just treated wishy washy.

No, my point is insanity pleas need a specific exception; hormones aren't one of them.

There are about as much rape cases per year as abortions. 

That's not true. Abortions are more common.

That's not true. Abortions are more common.

1 in 4 women have an abortion. 1 in 4 women are victims of attempted or completed rape. When we account for sexual harassment, we might as well conclude sexual offenses are more common than abortion.

1 in 4 women are victims of attempted or completed rape. When we account for sexual harassment, we might as well conclude sexual offenses are more common than abortion.

Rapists rape many women. Sexual assault should get you SAed by a machine. Proportional penalties should be the target.