There is the precense of a Y chromosome, so male.
And there it is. AIS is a condition where many people born with it grow up being raised as a female and don't even know there's anything unusual until they hit puberty. But in your mind, that's a male plain and simple.
This is what makes the question "what is a woman" so stupid. It is asked under the premise that there's men, woman, and nothing else, and everyone neatly falls into one of these two buckets. That is easily provably not true, but the political right continues on with this nonsense because it sells, despite being complete bullshit.
If you are incapable of seeing nuance then there's not really a point to continuing this.
So then neither, then? You are saying that TW aren't men or women.
I'm saying that TW = TW.
Whether they fit into the male or female categories depends on how you're defining them. By you're cited definition it would seem they're defined as male. By other definitions they don't. You keep trying to paint this conversation as if there's a difinitive answer like there is for 2+2. It's not.
Well, how many genders are there?
As many as we decide to define.
What would be the issue with calling an AIS person a male?
The fact that they are often born with a vagina and have no idea themselves let alone anyone else that there's anything different about them. So sure, call them a male if you want, at that point your pronouns are utterly meaningless.
Have you ever had your chromosomes tested? How do you know you are a male (I'm assuming you are, otherwise female) according to your own definitions? You do know there are some people out there who don't find out till well after puberty, right?
But what are the other definitions?
Other definitions are whatever we say they are. Take your pick. Are we talking about genitals? Then Caitlin Jenner is a a female. Are we talking about a uterous? Plenty of biological "women" are born without them. Are we talking about what gender they live their lives in accordance with? Cause the political right outright rejects that definition.
There is no definition you can offer that doesn't come with some sort of problem. That's what makes it a human construct.
Who is, "we"? And how many have they decided to define?
"We" is society, and whatever the majority of people decide to call it would qualify for the most part, but if a significant portion (I'd say anything around 30% or more) call it something else it's going to be extremely messy, which is exactly what we're seeing.
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The right could call them a male. If a dude is in the Aussie outback and they get their dick bitten off by a rabid dingo, and they somehow survive, then they aren't a woman.
So you are equating a man getting his dick eaten off with someone who was actually born with a vagina.
Yeah, great point.
Nobody supports genitalia absolutism.
Nobody uses that as a definition
What does it mean to live life as a female/male?
As you are one to do, you focus on every individual sentence rather than absorbing the point.
There are many different factors to consider when forming a definition of male or female. The left understands this, which is why when you ask someone on the left to define a woman they hesitate. The recognize intuitively if nothing else that it's a stupid question given the context it is asked within. On the right they don't recognize this, because in their simple minds the world is divided into two sexes, which by definition also means two genders, and that's all there is to it.
One of these views is in touch with reality, the other is not, and it's not the one you all seem to think.
So if democracy rules (because you love democracy), then wouldn't that apply here?
We're talking about definitions of words, not democracy.
And also, because "I" love democracy? What does that even mean, do you not? Are you and your ilk finally deciding to just admit that you don't care?
It's not 30%; it's 18% according to Ipsos.
Congrats?
That 18% relies almost exclusively on identitarianism (which is inconsistent as then you can identify as a deer, but that doesn't make you a deer)?
No one is claiming that identifying as something makes you that something. Why are right wingers so incapable of understanding what this conversation is about?
Or they want a consistently applied dictionary definition.
Exactly. Let me translate, or rather clarify: you all want a simple definition to address a complex problem.
This is what happens when you are incapable or unwilling to deal with nuance. You insist on overly simplistic interpretations that do not reflect reality, and with each passing example become further and further disconnected.
I think democracy is a show and elections are predetermined by the 6 people that run the media (I’m not trying to make this about the Jews). They let people vote and they decide the results in an apartment building in Manhattan. What incentive do elections have to be accurate? If they lie, then who catches them?
This is straight up delusional.
"The media" expresses many different viewpoints, and in today's environment of social media and podcasts no one can possibly control all of the messaging.
Beyond that... An apartment building in Manhatten? WTF are you talking about?
Elections are decentralized, you can rig them out of grandma's kitchen.
Ever wonder how the poorest parts of the country are the most conservative?
Because in many of these places politics isn't about who has better ideas for improving people's lives, it's about a sense of belonging and personal identity.
Right wing politicians understand this, which is why they preach the gospel while filming campaign ads of themselves shooting at cans of bud light. The game is to win you over with bullshit so they can go to Congress and fix the laws to give themselves bigger tax breaks.
Plenty of people believe that.
You clearly do not know what this conversation is about.