"What comes next?" is the question people should have been asking months ago.

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After Charlie Kirk's assassination, Republicans are seething with rage now at the left, and they have a lot of sympathy from centrists. Most people on the left recognize that, even if they didn't love Charlie Kirk, his death doesn't put the left in a good situation politically. Like it or not, people are emotional creatures, and assassinations tend to elicit pretty strong reactions, whether or not it results in terrible policies. This is bad news for Democrats regardless of whether the shooter was on the left or not, and it's also just bad news for everyone to have the most powerful people in the country seething with rage.


Some reports are coming out now that there was writing on the bullet casings used for the assassination, reminiscent of another high-profile killing in recent memory. If this news is true (and even if it's not), it's very plausible that this assassin saw all the praise Luigi Mangione got and decided to do an assassination himself. Back when Luigi (allegedly) killed Thompson and was widely celebrated for it, I recall being one of the few people saying that glorifying political violence would set a dangerous precedent, and that breaking the state monopoly on violence without a solid plan to replace or reform the state would be more likely to have bad long-term consequences than good ones. Back then, far fewer people seemed worried enough to ask "what comes next?"


So, what came next? We can consider this assassination, and the inevitably destructive political fallout that follows, the answer to that question. This probably isn't the only violent action inspired by the glorification of Luigi, though the link here seems more clear. Fortunately, it seems that a lot of people have seen where this trend is headed, and cooler heads may soon prevail. But the snowball has started rolling, and this realization may be too late to avoid much of the damage that follows.

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Hmmmm.


Someone else was going to get shot.


They already knew the answer.


In the last month, that would have been about 9000.


And just under half will have died as a result.


Unfortunately though, taking into account deaths from other causes, birth rates aren't keeping apace.


Though I'm guessing that there is a MAGA breeding programme on the cards.

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@SergeantLynch

The point isn't just the people getting shot, it's the political fallout of killing a notable political figure just to enrage people. The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand caused a chain reaction leading to two world wars. If any assassination in recent memory had a chance of being "good," it was probably the one everyone was glorifying, right? Except the fact that everyone glorified it likely led to another assassination that looks like it will cause significant political fallout.

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@Savant

I know.


On the one hand humans are obviously clever, but sadly on the other hand, when whipped into a frenzy by a charismatic elite, herd mentality can turn the masses into imbeciles..


Always been the same.


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I don't know exactly how this murder is connected to Luigi's case. To my knowledge, what Luigi did was very personal. At what moment it turned into something political? Maybe the lefties made Luigi's case theirs, so in the end the blame should be on the fkn lefties.


Trump and the Republicans are right.

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@Savant

Well, maybe we'll get lucky with this assassination (Charlie Kirk)


If the assassin can't be shoehorned into a normal Left vs Right dynamic,

And the jumping the gun on blame, Us vs Them on display this time around,

Hopefully even in future events, cooler heads shall prevail first.


If it 'had been some major obvious Leftist, makes me a bit nervous how many people and how much jumped the gun on blame.

Don't want a back and forth of violence.

I vaguely remember movies set in Civil Rights Era, this race gets killed, riots, that race gets killed riots, back and forth, back and forth.

. . . One sees such with 'gangs maybe, I suppose.

. . .

I'm still pretty doubtful on any modern America Civil War though.

The groups seem too ill defined and porous, mixed together, lacking in geographical strongholds.

. . .


. . . I still wonder if we aren't entering a new fad of killing though.

Never studied the subject much.

But I don't think there were so many school killings X many years ago,

Some people claim the post office killings, the serial killer killing eras have passed by a bit.

. . . Though I imagine post offices changed carious policies,

And technology and methods now allow police to catch serial killers quicker,

. . . So maybe they weren't 'fads, so much as the causes have been removed, snuffed quicker.


I think I'd find mass numbers of political killings more inconvenient for effects it would have on society at large.

Probably a lot of stupid reasons for the killings too, also annoying.


But I've also long found school killings annoying, what they heck are they targeting 'schools for?

Not that I think it's valid to kill politicians, but at least I can understand the reasoning better.

. . . How does one blame little kids for anything?

. . .


Riots in front of government buildings annoys me less than riots in communities.

Though they're still often stupid.

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