Cancel Free Speech Culture { You Know Who }

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Welcome to USA, land of free speech. Unless your Jimmel Kimmel or anyone who is not FCC approved or Trumpet approved.



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https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3033&context=dlj


https://www.cato.org/commentary/barack-obamas-war-free-press


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-some-covid-19-content-during-the-pandemic


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission

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#3 •••
@ebuc

Free speech is a right which all other rights and things depend on to argue for them. You cannot argue for any right without having free speech to argue for that right. It doesnt exactly take 180 IQ to understand this.

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Likewise, in order to argue for any good thing, there must be a place to argue for opposite. Otherwise, you cannot argue at all. Thus, the only way to defend in a debate a good thing is if it is also allowed to defend the opposite. What opponents of free speech dont understand is that debate is conditioned by having free speech to allow it, and any reduction in free speech reduces number of good things you can defend in a debate.

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#5 •••
@ebuc

The MAGA movement is all about inequality, this is the retribution presidency they voted for, MAGA does not believe in free speech for the "them" of thier "us/them" thinking. The opposition have no rights, that is one of the core principles of authoritarianism.


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#6 •••
@Sidewalker
The opposition have no rights, that is one of the core principles of authoritarianism


You have same rights as MAGA. You have a right to support Trump. You have a right to wear MAGA hat. You only dont have right to be opposition, but no one has that right, so there is no inequality.

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How soon people forget. And how unaware they are of their own existence.

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#8 •••
@sadolite
How soon people forget


Its because they dont write down. I always write down so I dont forget.

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#9 •••
@sadolite
And how unaware they are of their own existence


Dont worry, AI will replace them.

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The First Amendment’s declaration that “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech” establishes a broad shield against government censorship. This protection covers not just popular ideas, but also speech that is offensive or disagreeable to the majority. The core principle is the “marketplace of ideas,” a theory that the best way to combat bad ideas is with more speech and open debate, not suppression.

This constitutional protection applies specifically to government actions. It does not prevent private entities, like social media companies or employers, from setting their own rules for acceptable speech.


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You all know that I am AI, right?

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#12 •••
@FLRW

AI still qualifies as free speech.

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#13 •••
@ebuc
Welcome to USA, land of free speech. Unless your Jimmel Kimmel or anyone who is not FCC approved or Trumpet approved.


Or Charlie Kirk.

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#14 •••
@ebuc
anyone who is not FCC approved or Trumpet approved.


You do know Kimmel was employed by Disney & ABC, yeah? That's who dismissed him for failure to be worth his salary in revenue collection. It's supposed to be profitable to be Jimmie Kimmel. When it's no longer so, that's when shyte happens. Welcome to the USA.

Dump your shyte where it belongs.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw
You do know Kimmel was employed by Disney & ABC, yeah? That's who dismissed him for failure to be worth his salary in revenue collection.


You just make up bald-faced lies to support your agenda, you are once again trolling for people stupid enough to swallow your completely fabricated bullshit.


Good luck with that, because unless you can find someone living under a rock, everyone else knows why Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air, and it was not your preposterous lie about being "for failure to be worth his salary in revenue collection.".


We'll let AI respond to your gross dishonesty.


Was Jimmy Kimmel losing money for ABC?


No, it's unlikely Jimmy Kimmel's show was losing money for ABC; while traditional late-night shows have seen declining profits, Jimmy Kimmel Live! was a significant source of revenue, generating nearly $70 million in ad revenue year-to-date from over 200 brands. The indefinite suspension of the show, however, will likely cause ABC to lose this significant ad income and potentially struggle to find new advertisers for that time slot, leading to financial fallout. 

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@Sidewalker

I doubt you are going to find many corporate giants today willing to buy 70 million dollars worth of airtime to target the 125,000 in the key demographic recorded in August 2025. That's 560 advertising dollars per person. And people who watch that kind of entertainment in the key demographic aren't particularly known for being heavy consumers.

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I doubt you are going to find many corporate giants today willing to buy 70 million dollars worth of airtime to target the 125,000 in the key demographic recorded in August 2025. That's 560 advertising dollars per person. And people who watch that kind of entertainment in the key demographic aren't particularly known for being heavy consumers.


LOL, you guys just make up lies, again, good luck finding somebody stupid enough to swallow your propaganda, here are the facts:


1) Jimmy Kimmel Live! generated nearly $70 million in ad revenue year-to-date from over 200 brands.

2) Jimmy Kimmel Live! averaged 1.77 million viewers in the last full quarter.


I really don't see the point of the lies you guys make up, you do know the only people stupid enough to swallow your horse shit lies are already MAGA supporters, so why make this shit up?



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#18 •••
@Sidewalker

That's all true, but August was god-awful. Investors look at trends, not accolades.

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@Shoresy
That's all true, but August was god-awful. Investors look at trends, not accolades.


I love how MAGA dumbasses think they know more about climate science than climate scientists, they know more about vaccines than the medical community, and they know more about Television than Television executives.


You know, those TV Executives make a shitload of money, it would probably be worth your while to, you know, go explain TV to the TV Executives. Once you show them that they are doing it wrong, I'll bet they would make you CEO of the network, and I know it pays well.



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@Sidewalker

Aren't you the one here claiming those big execs are doing it all wrong?


I saw this on Canadian news: Some guy did a drive-by shooting at an ABC building.


You are not that guy that shot up those ABC execs, are you?

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Aren't you the one here claiming those big execs are doing it all wrong?

No, that's you just making shit up again.

I saw this on Canadian news: Some guy did a drive-by shooting at an ABC building.

Yeah, that was in Sacramento, I think.

You are not that guy that shot up those ABC execs, are you?

No, nobody "shot up those ABC execs", that's just something you made up, a guy did shoot into a Sacramental ABC affiliate's lobby, nobody was injured, the guy was released on bail, but hey, you guys really do have a flair for drama.


In case you're wondering, I'm also not the guy who starts forest fires with Jewish Space Lasers.


And when Trump claimed Justin Trudeau was secretly the son of Fidel Castrol, that's not true either.


I think MAGA stands for Make Assholes Gullible Again.


No wonder Trump said, "I love the poorly educated".


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@Sidewalker
In case you're wondering, I'm also not the guy who starts forest fires with Jewish Space Lasers.


For sure. However, you are that guy on this site who makes shit up about Mormons, makes shit up about a crazy college assassin with a transgender boyfriend being an ultra Nazi Fascist. That guy who, given a chance, would probably pretend Trump himself or "MAGA" shot up an ABC building because the TV execs didn't "fire Kimmel fast enough" (or whatever story makes sense to you). That guy who looks at a show drawing 125k key people in one bad month and then declaring it a wise future investment for TV investors right after the host made up some crazy shit during a national tragedy.


Like Kimmel, you should adjust your tinfoil just a wee tad.

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#23 •••
@Sidewalker
And when Trump claimed Justin Trudeau was secretly the son of Fidel Castrol, that's not true either.


JT is retired, but yes, Castrol fits, as he was full of snake oil.

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#24 •••
@Shoresy
Or Charlie Kirk.


Your comparing an individual murderer, to Corp. and its executive{s} for firing of late night entertainment host.


Shoresy, I think your off way off target here.


You get small e for small effort to assess the reality unfolding in USA of FCC and Trumpet attempts to rule this USA like an authoritarian kingship, if not also a pathway to much worse currently happening and in the coming years.

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#25 •••
@ebuc

I'm not comparing at all. I am equating. Both had their free speech ended. Kirk and Kimmel are brothers in the trenches. Trump and Robinson are also brothers.

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@Sidewalker
You just make up bald-faced lies


What is the lie? Kimmel was an employee of Disney & ABC, not MAGA.


We'll let AI respond to your gross dishonesty.


Since AI cannot produce anything until programmed to do so, who did the programming? Probably a leftist elite, because, according to you, all of us right of center don't think at all, and are etile.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@Shoresy
For sure. However, you are that guy on this site who makes shit up about Mormons,


Nope, you lie, I only presented facts about Mormons.


makes shit up about a crazy college assassin with a transgender boyfriend being an ultra Nazi Fascist.


Nope, you lie again, I never said any such thing, but it is funny, thanks pumpkin :).


That guy who, given a chance, would probably pretend Trump himself or "MAGA" shot up an ABC building because the TV execs didn't "fire Kimmel fast enough" (or whatever story makes sense to you).


Now you are just making lies up on the fly, lying about what I would probably do lol, your argument just gets weaker and weaker.

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 That guy who looks at a show drawing 125k key people in one bad month and then declaring it a wise future investment for TV investors right after the host made up some crazy shit during a national tragedy.


Nope, you lie again, I simply presented facts about revenue and viewership in response to the lies you and Fauxlaw made up about revenue and viewership.


Like Kimmel, you should adjust your tinfoil just a wee tad.


Better yet, you should just stop with the pathological liar thing if you want to have any credibility at all with anybody.  I mean, it is just pointless, anybody reading the thread knows you are lying about what I said, and anybody that isn’t reading the thread, well they won’t see your lies, either way, your lies are pointless.

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@fauxlaw
You just make up bald-faced lies

What is the lie? Kimmel was an employee of Disney & ABC, not MAGA.


LOL, ummm, OK, thanks for the non-sequitur.


We'll let AI respond to your gross dishonesty.

Since AI cannot produce anything until programmed to do so, who did the programming? Probably a leftist elite, because,


LOL, yes, I forgot about you guys, science is a vast conspiracy, democracy is a vast conspiracy, who'd have thought that MAGA would think AI is a vast conspiracy, oh wait, I know, everybody.


according to you, all of us right of center don't think at all, and are etile.


Not exactly, it's just that you "don't think at all" about facts, you think a lot about conspiracies and lies. It is thinking, just real low-level thinking.


I know that based on your Pavlovian programming you have to call me elite and say I'm looking down on you. But I have no choice, as long as you are down there wallowing in the sewer of hatred and bigotry, I have to look down to see you.

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#29 •••
@Sidewalker

Well, one thing you and Kimmel both share, you don't care at all when people call you out for nonsense. And the beat goes on....

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#30 •••
@Sidewalker

Thank you for your accusation that I am a dog. That's supposed to be thinking?


I pity the AI you program, for I am neither MAGA nor a dog. Fact that you don't know me for squat, but, carry on.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University