Why I believe in repealing the 19th amendment (so I endorse mysogony)

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AI Overview:


The "man vs. bear" debate was widely discussed within incel communities, who used it as evidence for their misogynistic worldview. The online trend, where women overwhelmingly chose a bear over a man in a hypothetical forest scenario, became a focal point for incel anger and resentment toward women and wider society. 


Background on the man vs. bear debate

The viral social media trend presented women with a hypothetical question: would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear? The majority of women answered they would prefer the bear. Their reasoning centered on: 

  1. Predictable intentions: A bear's intentions are seen as primal and clear—it will either ignore you or attack. This is contrasted with a random man, whose unknown intentions provoke fear and anxiety.
  2. Belief and justice: Women expressed a fear that if a bear attacked them, they would be believed and receive sympathy. In contrast, if a man attacked them, they might spend the rest of their lives fighting to be believed, with potential blame and skepticism directed at them.
  3. Reflecting real-world fears: For many women, the hypothetical was not literal but a way to illustrate the pervasive, everyday fear of gender-based violence and harassment they experience from men. 


Incels' reaction to the debate

Incels and other members of the manosphere seized on the trend as a confirmation of their existing beliefs, though their interpretation differed significantly from the women who initiated the discussion. Key incel responses included:

  1. "Proving" women are irrational: Incels argued that choosing a bear over a man is statistically irrational, as fatal bear attacks are far more common than attacks from a random man. They dismissed women's responses as illogical and emotional, failing to engage with the deeper social commentary on fear and safety.
  2. Claiming to be victims of misandry: Incels interpreted the trend as blatant misandry (the hatred of men) and proof that women unfairly generalize and despise all men. This framed men as the real victims in the debate, justifying their own pre-existing resentment.
  3. Reinforcing the "black pill" ideology: The incel concept of the "black pill" is a deterministic and pessimistic view that genetics and appearance are the sole determinants of one's romantic success. The man vs. bear debate was twisted to support this ideology, suggesting women's preferences were shallow or biased and that men were doomed to be unwanted.
  4. Deflecting from the issue of male violence: Instead of confronting the issues of harassment and violence against women that the debate highlighted, incels used it as a platform to air grievances and invalidate women's fears. Some even responded with aggressive threats and harassment toward women on social media, ironically proving the very point women were making about men's potential for violence.
  5. Demonstrating misunderstanding of the hypothetical: The incel reaction frequently involved taking the hypothetical question literally and providing statistics on animal attacks, which demonstrated a fundamental inability or unwillingness to understand the emotional and social subtext that women were expressing. 


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@RemyBrown

I agreed with ya in other topic that was related to this. I think we definately need to shine more light on this subject. Maybe make it a debate.

I dont believe its misogyny to repeal the 19th personally, we arent trying to discredit or make women lesser, we are just acknowledging that we made a mistake and that we learned from it.

Women are more emotional and prefer to be taken care of. Women are hardwired to reject what is harmful to insane degrees, because thats how a mother is suppose to be for her children.

Its not misogyny, its understanding women's nature and letting men be the source of leadership and the protectors of our freedoms.


Obviously there are ignorant men and intelligent women, so we should try to be better informed. But having women deny their role as nuturers is not gonna help anyone.

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