Most people think rape should be legal

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There is an easy answer to this. Dont have sex outside of marriage. And when married, both agree to have sex.


Everything else is either:


1:fornication: sex outside marriage.

2: Adultery: having sex with another person while married.

3:rape: sex outside of clear consent. (Yes is yes and they chose it.)

Enthusiasm has nothing to do with consent.

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Bible makes it very simple. If a woman screams or cries for help during sex, she is being raped. If she isnt screaming or crying for help, she consents.

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@RemyBrown
What types of rape would you execute someone for and which types would you legalize?


Not paying a prostitute after sex is probably the least decent thing a man can do. Its like... stealing sex. Well, all rape is technically stealing sex, but common, the woman literally sells sex for a living and you just steal it from her?

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If a woman screams or cries for help during sex, she is being raped. If she isnt screaming or crying for help, she consents.


So if someone drugs you and rapes you, you consented?

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Also the results are from twitter (x) reddit and fetlife, they do not constitute the majority of people or views.


https://aella.substack.com/p/the-rape-spectrum-survey-results

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AI:


Incel communities exhibit a significant and disturbing "rape obsession", characterized by the frequent glorification, promotion, and justification of sexual violence against women. This is a core component of the extreme misogyny prevalent within these online subcultures, which are considered by some experts to be a form of violent extremism or even domestic terrorism. 


Key findings and characteristics include:

  1. Prevalence of Discussions: A 2022 study by the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) on the largest incel forum found that users posted about rape, on average, every 29 minutes during the study period.
  2. Endorsement of Sexual Violence: Analysis of forum discussions reveals overwhelming support for rape among users who express an opinion on the topic (89% support in one study), often viewing it as a justified response or "revenge" for women rejecting them.
  3. Sense of Entitlement to Sex: The fundamental incel ideology posits that men are "entitled" to sex, and women who deny them are to blame for their situation. This sense of entitlement is used to rationalize nonconsensual sex.
  4. Dehumanization of Women: Women are routinely dehumanized and objectified on these forums using derogatory slurs (e.g., "foid," "roastie") which makes it easier to justify violence against them.
  5. "Rape Pill" Ideology: A specific subset within the community adheres to a "rape pill" ideology, which explicitly advocates for the legalization of rape and the removal of female consent as a factor in sexual relations.
  6. Normalizing Violence: Beyond online rhetoric, the ideology has been linked to real-world violence, including mass killings perpetrated by self-identified incels (such as Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian) who left behind manifestos detailing their desire to "punish" sexually active women.
  7. Fantasies and Encouragement: Incel forums are rife with graphic fantasies of violence against women, and members often encourage each other to commit violent acts, sometimes even urging those considering suicide to commit murder first. 


In essence, the "obsession" stems from a profound sense of victimization and a belief that women's sexual autonomy is the cause of their suffering, leading to a hateful and violent ideology that promotes nonconsensual sex as a form of perceived justice or power assertion. 









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people who want to normalize 🍇 are just sick in the head imo

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@Sidewalker
A specific subset within the community adheres to a "rape pill" ideology, which explicitly advocates for the legalization of rape


that would seriously backfire on them, because it would mean people can rape them too.

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@pierree
people who want to normalize 🍇 are just sick in the head imo


Dangerously so.


AI: Incel culture is widely considered dangerous due to its deep-seated misogyny, promotion of violence against women and "Chads" (attractive men), and its documented link to real-world mass casualty attacks and other hate crimes. Law enforcement agencies in several countries, including the US and Canada, classify violent incel activity as a form of ideological extremism or terrorism. 


Key dangers and characteristics of incel culture include:

  1. Ideology of Hate and Entitlement: Incel ideology is rooted in the belief that men are entitled to sexual and romantic relationships, and that women and society are to blame for denying them this perceived right. Women are often dehumanized, referred to by derogatory slurs like "foids" (female humanoids) and "Stacys," and blamed for their own "involuntary celibacy".
  2. Promotion of Violence: Online incel forums are often saturated with homicidal and suicidal rhetoric, including rape threats and fantasies, and discussions about violence against women. While most members do not become violent, the community creates an echo chamber where extreme views and calls for a "rebellion" are amplified and normalized among a vulnerable minority.
  3. Real-World Attacks: Several perpetrators of mass murders and attempted attacks have identified as incels or espoused incel beliefs, with some citing earlier incel attackers like Elliot Rodger as inspiration or "martyrs". Law enforcement officials believe violent incels have murdered at least 47 people in North America in recent years.
  4. Radicalization Pipeline: Vulnerable young men grappling with social isolation and poor mental health can be drawn into these online communities seeking belonging. A "radicalization pipeline" moves some individuals from a state of frustration to "blackpilling" (a nihilistic belief that their situation is unchangeable) which can lead to the endorsement of violence as their only recourse.
  5. Intersection with other Extremism: Incel ideology often overlaps with other extreme views, including white supremacy, far-right ideologies, racism, and homophobia, creating a complex and multifaceted threat landscape. 


Efforts to address this danger focus on recognizing incel misogyny as a form of violent extremism, deplatforming harmful content, and intervening with individuals who show warning signs or are struggling with the underlying issues of loneliness and mental distress. 


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Chill man, its just an opinion thats on topic. You dont like it just block him or something.

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@RemyBrown

"Sick in the head" is a colloquial phrase for having a mental illness or being mentally disturbed. It can describe severe mental health conditions, or more generally, someone with unusual or deviant behavior, twisted thinking, or a warped sense of morality. It is also the title of a book by Judd Apatow and a song by the band Kneecap




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@RemyBrown
Vague Insults like, “sick in the head” don’t mean anything anymore.

Address my point or stay out of this.


Incels, violence and mental disorder: a narrative review with recommendations for best practice in risk assessment and clinical intervention | BJPsych Advances | Cambridge Core


Incels need more mental health help - Swansea University report


Incels: A new terror threat to the UK?


Incels: Inside a dark world of online hate

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@RemyBrown
Nobody cares about your links. Come up with your own arguments. I can cite a 500 pg red pill book, but that's not an argument. I'm not going to dig for your points because you are too lazy to argue on your own.


The Danger of Incels—and How We Shift the Thinking of Men Attracted to These Groups - Ms. Magazine


Predicting harm among incels (involuntary celibates): the roles of mental health, ideological belief and social networking (accessible) - GOV.UK



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@Sidewalker
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@RemyBrown
You didn't learn the 1st time.


Experts fear rising global ‘incel’ culture could provoke terrorism | Violence against women and girls | The Guardian


Incel online communities, violence, and the construction of collective victimhood | Europol


What is an Incel? Understanding Incel Culture, Misogyny & Mental Health

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@RemyBrown

If it was legal it wouldn't be rape.


Though true, herd mentality dictates alfa male dominance.


Are you an alfa male Remy?

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@Sidewalker
AI:

Incel communities exhibit a significant and disturbing "rape obsession", characterized by the frequent glorification, promotion, and justification of sexual violence against women. This is a core component of the extreme misogyny prevalent within these online subcultures, which are considered by some experts to be a form of violent extremism or even domestic terrorism. 

Key findings and characteristics include:
Prevalence of Discussions: A 2022 study by the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) on the largest incel forum found that users posted about rape, on average, every 29 minutes during the study period.
Endorsement of Sexual Violence: Analysis of forum discussions reveals overwhelming support for rape among users who express an opinion on the topic (89% support in one study), often viewing it as a justified response or "revenge" for women rejecting them.
Sense of Entitlement to Sex: The fundamental incel ideology posits that men are "entitled" to sex, and women who deny them are to blame for their situation. This sense of entitlement is used to rationalize nonconsensual sex.
Dehumanization of Women: Women are routinely dehumanized and objectified on these forums using derogatory slurs (e.g., "foid," "roastie") which makes it easier to justify violence against them.
"Rape Pill" Ideology: A specific subset within the community adheres to a "rape pill" ideology, which explicitly advocates for the legalization of rape and the removal of female consent as a factor in sexual relations.
Normalizing Violence: Beyond online rhetoric, the ideology has been linked to real-world violence, including mass killings perpetrated by self-identified incels (such as Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian) who left behind manifestos detailing their desire to "punish" sexually active women.
Fantasies and Encouragement: Incel forums are rife with graphic fantasies of violence against women, and members often encourage each other to commit violent acts, sometimes even urging those considering suicide to commit murder first. 

In essence, the "obsession" stems from a profound sense of victimization and a belief that women's sexual autonomy is the cause of their suffering, leading to a hateful and violent ideology that promotes nonconsensual sex as a form of perceived justice or power assertion. 


Why would incels even care about rape? They can't even get to first base with women

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@RemyBrown

Can hot people be rapists? Hot people are people all other people want to have sex with.

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@SergeantLynch
If it was legal it wouldn't be rape.

Though true, herd mentality dictates alfa male dominance.

Are you an alfa male Remy?


He'll have to go upstairs and ask his mom.


"Mom, am I an alpha male"


"No dear, you are a barking little chihuahua with undeveloped grapes for testicles, now come eat your cereal.)

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@Skipper
Why would incels even care about rape? They can't even get to first base with women


You answered your own question didn't you.

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@Skipper
Why would incels even care about rape?


Incel cannot want to rape women. If he wanted to rape women and thought it was okay, then choosing not to rape women would make him voluntary celibate and not incel (involuntary celibate).

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