we've lost the policy in politics

Politicians, just like the masses of people: People say one thing, think another, do third, and the result is nothing like any of those 3.

True. 👍

Too many people in a global society dictated by money supply, and therefore also dictated by hierarchical greed. Wherein "policy" can never be anything more than a hollow promise that will always fail to appease the aspirations of the masses. So honest politicians will never succeed and drooling masses look to charismatic deceivers for some sort of alternative satisfaction.

Evolution is greed. Extinction is scarcity.

Well said. But why cant we get folksy policy wonks who are good at both lofty populist rhetoric, plus good policy chops, greedy billionaires be damned? Does it all boil down to our crooked campaign finance system plus an establishment political system? Probably. But i also think there's a critical shortage of informed and well spoken genuine humans that would be good at walking that fine line and still willing to play politics. Politics encourages psychopaths and sociopaths and the corrupt to run for office

Good question: Why can't politicians have good policies?

Because the best policy government can ever have is to have a policy with less government. Government doesn't build anything; it just tells you what you can or cannot build. Government doesn't provide anything; it just tells you what you can or cannot buy. The only thing the government can truly build or grow is itself.

The problem isn't that they don't have good policies; it's that they have too many policies. Necessary evil sold itself as a necessary good, and that is why you can't have options to buy nice things or the freedom to build for the future. Because the working-class voters outsourced all their freedom to the white collar manager class in government seats. As long as the working-class voter fears personal responsibility more than the corruption, size, and power of the government, the only policies that can be created will be....more policies....

Our vestigial genes that drove us into hierarchical herds were a very fit evolved trait in a world of extreme scarcity.

Today, in a world of technological abundance, those genes limit us greatly on an individual level from reaching our potential to evolve and grow and leave something wonderful in our brief time on Earth. The instinct to create a class of chieftains is simply obsolete in the age of abundance. A leftover behavior from a world that no longer exists.

Well said.

But I would suggest It's all a social reality, and that dominance and submission is how a society gets things done.

Lol, no it's not.

The statement "we've lost the policy in politics" reflects a sentiment that contemporary politics often prioritizes other factors, such as 

partisanship, short-term messaging, or cultural issues, over substantive policy-making and long-term vision. 

Commentators and analysts have noted several contributing factors to this trend:

1. Focus on 'Vision' over Specifics: Political systems sometimes struggle to generate a clear, long-term national vision, leading to decades of postponed decisions and policy failures that converge into crises.
2. Rise of Populism and Partisanship: The current political landscape is often characterized by high levels of political polarization, where loyalty to party lines and attacking rivals takes precedence over cross-party collaboration on policy.
3. Emphasis on Cultural Issues: Some strategists argue that political parties have spent too much time on social and cultural issues and too little on "bread-and-butter" economic concerns that matter most to average voters.
4. Media and Information Ecosystem: The modern media environment, including for-profit systems of political manipulation and the "never-ending storm" of moral outrage online, can obscure nuanced policy discussions and focus instead on sensationalism and division.
5. Erosion of Trust and Accountability: When citizens stop following politics closely, politicians may face less accountability, leading to a cycle where policy decisions lack public scrutiny and trust in government diminishes.
6. Government Ineptitude: In some cases, government systems are perceived as being structurally unable to meet voter expectations or are undermined by internal dysfunction, leading to frustration and a sense of policy failure. 

Overall, the idea that "policy has been lost" suggests a desire for a return to evidence-based governance and substantive problem-solving, rather than the horse-race dynamics or culture wars that frequently dominate the headlines. 

Lol, no it's not.

A sweeping statement with no qualification.

Submission and dominance would be a sort of counterintuitive state of affairs

And social inertia would perhaps not be greatly productive.

America was founded and prospered as a counterexample.

The phrase "America was founded and prospered as a counterexample" points to the idea of 

American Exceptionalism, suggesting the U.S. defied typical patterns, especially regarding religion's role in modernity (being highly religious while modern) or its unique blend of liberty and capitalism, but this notion is debated, with some scholars arguing America is now aligning with global trends (like secularization) and others highlighting its founding on natural rights and competitive spirit as truly unique, even while acknowledging historical issues like slavery and inequality. 

What it Means (The "Counterexample" Aspect):

1. Religious Exceptionalism: For a long time, the U.S. was seen as a counterexample to theories of secularization (the idea that modernization makes societies less religious), as it remained highly religious while Europe became more secular.
2. Political/Economic Model: The founding's emphasis on individual liberty, limited government, natural rights, and competitive capitalism presented a unique model distinct from European systems. 

Why It's Debated:

1. Shifting Religious Trends: Some argue the U.S. is no longer a counterexample in religion, as its religiosity has been declining, mirroring patterns seen elsewhere in the West.
2. Historical Context: Critics point out that America's founding and prosperity were built on colonialism, slavery, and exploitation, complicating the narrative of unique virtue.
3. Modern Challenges: Issues like systemic racism, wealth inequality, and political polarization challenge the idea of America as a consistently superior model. 

In essence, the statement reflects a long-standing debate about America's uniqueness—whether its founding principles created an unparalleled nation or if it's a more typical (though complex) nation grappling with universal challenges.