Without me, DebateCraft is basically dead

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@RemyBrown

Left and right these days are one and the same...It's just that policy content may vary.

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@RemyBrown

I am always opposed to your ban, but I dont control this site's government, despite some thinking that I do.

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@RemyBrown

Now, you have to understand what you were banned for, and that is call to violence.


While I do think this site should have maximal free speech it can have, calls to violence were voted as a big no no, and are one of 4 no no rules:

  1. No spam
  2. No calls to violence
  3. No doxing
  4. No committing crime on site


these are 4 no no rules. Now, I can understand how someone thinks calls to violence are free speech, but you were basically arguing there that someone should commit a crime or that its okay to do so, which is a violation of both 2 and 4. So its a double no no.

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@SergeantLynch
Left and right these days are one and the same...It's just that policy content may vary.


I don't think it's necessarily left and right that are one and the same, it’s left and right extremism that are one and the same, as we have become more polarized, extremism has grown on both sides (as a reaction to each other), until left and right extremism is closer to each other than either is with either of the middle views.


We see two opposing groups of political extremists that, taken by themselves, are inexplicable within the context of their respective political orientations and which do in fact represent these two “polar opposites” categories of one and the same extremism.  On one side of this polarity is an excessively dogmatic left wing fundamentalism that doesn’t appear to be true to liberalism, and on the other side of the coin, it is opposed by a dogmatic right wing fundamentalism that doesn’t appear to be true to Jesus.


I think the key to understanding is to understand “polar opposites”, to say that “opposites” are “polar” is to say much more than they are opposed or separated; it is to say that they constitute a whole. There is a reciprocal, transactional relationship being described. “Polar opposites” don’t even exist without each other, they are contingent upon each other, you just can’t have the one without the other. Polar opposites are like the two sides of a coin, or the two ends of a stick; they refer to two opposing aspects of one and the same thing. Consequently, such extremists are closer together than either of them is with the more reasonable, middle view.

This would certainly explain why there are more similarities than differences between the online posts of Atheists and Believers, they only appear to be opposites but are in fact inseparable opposites; they constitute a whole. Seen as mirror images of one and the same extremist, they are not mutually exclusive at all; in fact, they are mutually sustaining, reciprocal in their true nature.


I think they are mirror images, the same but inverted, and yet they don't recognize themselves in the mirror, like a dog barking at itself in the mirror.


Funny Dogs Barking At Themselves In Mirrors Compilation 2016 - YouTube 


But then again, they say all wars are internal wars, so maybe on a deep level they do recognize themselves, and perhaps that is why they need each other, because they need the fight.

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Watching John Kasich eat has convinced me that he's some kind of cephalopoid alien species wearing a human skinsuit. If he were President, I think we'd all be dead, except for the few unlucky souls kept on ice to be eaten alive on their orbital space station as a delicacy.

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@Sidewalker

Watching your politics from afar, it seems obvious that both your parties cosplay at being extremists to get maximum votes. Obamacare is far from communism as it's a direct fascist regulatory capture of the private healthcare industry while also allowing massive private profits. Likewise, your far right is unable to return any freedom to your states from the Capitol District of your country, and in fact continues to transfer state powers to the central agencies. Both sides cosplay at actually being avatars for freedom or avatars for communism, but it's just a costume. So both sides cosplay as sacred cows protecting the nation from existential threats.“We’re stopping communism” versus “we’re stopping fascism,” while quietly, away from managed media, agreeing on the existing core structures, namely, centralized authority, permanent unelected bureaucracy, limited accountability, and donor-aligned outcomes favorable to the lobby class.

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@SatanLucy
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@SergeantLynch
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@RemyBrown

I was talking not just in terms of extremes, but also how modern society dictates necessity in terms social, financial and technological expectations.


No political party can ignore such things.



Dictatorship is another issue, and there is no difference between a right wing dictatorship and a left wing dictatorship.


Was pseudo-communism right or left?



The real antithesis of extreme government is centrism.

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@Sidewalker

See above.


And for sure, Yin has it's Yang.


And of course, let's not forget that social hierarchy breeds greed, corruption and paranoia....Putin and Trump are fine examples.

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@SergeantLynch
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@FLRW, @SergeantLynch
See above.

And for sure, Yin has it's Yang.

And of course, let's not forget that social hierarchy breeds greed, corruption and paranoia....Putin and Trump are fine examples.


Have you heard that now Trump wants to change the name of the San Andreas Fault?


He's renaming it Joe Biden's Fault.


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@Sidewalker

It is all part of Trump’s obsession with name calling.

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@SergeantLynch

I find it funny how drastically different British and Russian attitudes toward Putin are. A country that’s lost over 20 million civilians in war is going to have a very different idea of what ‘right’ looks like.

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@Shoresy

Well, Russia has always been keen on the cannon fodder tactic.


And Russian civilians have never been able to say no.


It's the way it works over there.

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@SergeantLynch

Aye, and the comforting opinions from a plushy Harvey's armchair built on the bones of 20 million Russians hold little weight for the everyday Russians with no time to cosplay politics like the rest of us.

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@Shoresy

Hmmmm, an intensely metaphorical statement Shoresy.

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@SergeantLynch

Lol, well, I think it's sad that ethnocentric people don't recognize how bad the 90s were for Russians. Compared to then, they are living in a golden age today. Compared to the West, they are barbarians. Finger-wags and Siberia are poor companions.

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Well, don't know if you've been to Britain recently, but ethnocentricity is largely a thing of the past.


Don't believe media inspired propaganda, it's all designed to deceive and destabilise collective thinking...A Russian tactic too.


And for sure, British and Russian histories dictate their present day's.


And I for one, am firmly of the opinion that Russian sacrifice was the key to ending WW2.


Though in typical Russian fashion, they had different ideas about post war Europe, which undeniably led us to where we are now.


So Russians are responsible for Russianness and the British are responsible for Britishness.


Harvey who?...Weinstein?

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@SergeantLynch
Well, don't know if you've been to Britain recently, but ethnocentricity is largely a thing of the past.


True. The UK is soon to be like Canada, with fingers wagging in multiple directions. We will see how that experiment ends up.

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@Shoresy

Yes, that is a truism.



Have a good day Shoresy.


Sergeant Lynch is signing out.

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@SergeantLynch

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Looks friendlier than Trump or Putin.

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