One million murders in USA per year

In 2024, the estimated number of clinician-provided abortions in the United States was

over 1.1 million, marking a continued rise despite state-level bans.

It doesnt matter if person believes if abortion is "murder" or not. Abortion is regardless single biggest life destroying element by far, erasing 40 million lives every 40 years.

People who support abortion cannot logically condemn murder, because abortion takes away more lives than all other murders combined.

There were approximately

19,800 to 22,830 homicides in the United States in 2023.

Because if you say these 20,000 homicides are bad for "erasing lives", you would logically have to say abortion is 50 times worse for erasing 50 times more lives in same time.

So if lives have value, abortion destroys more value.

these are US birth rates over time. As you can see, there was a sudden rise around 1970 year, but after legalizing abortions in 1973, the birth rates dropped significantly and kept dropping more and more.

And also, you have to account abortion per pregnancy rate. Right now its not on any better level than it was in 1960, but its even worse because there are actually less pregnancies today and lower birth rate.

Also, it is questionable how to measure abortion rates.

In a 2024 survey, about 14 % of U.S. women of reproductive age (typically ages 18-49) reported that they have had at least one abortion at some point in their lives.

Another large survey found a similar figure: about 1 in 7 women (≈14 %) reported having had an abortion.

this places number of abortions at over 1 million per year, which is made worse by fact that number of pregnancies in USA decreased.

U.S. pregnancies and birth rates have

generally declined since a peak in 2007, reaching historically low levels in 2023. While teenage pregnancies have fallen by roughly two-thirds since 2007, birth rates have shifted, decreasing for women under 30 but increasing for women in their 30s and 40.

So now you have very high number of abortions and rising, but pregnancy number decreasing.

USA relies on migrants because it destroyed its own birth rates.

After legalization of abortions in 1973, what followed was a constant increase in number of legal abortions.

In 1973, the year

Roe v. Wade legalized abortion nationwide, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention | CDC (.gov) reported 615,831 legal abortions.

In 1974, there were

763,476 legal abortions reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention | CDC (.gov) (CDC).

In 1975, there were approximately

854,853 to 1,034,170 legal abortions reported in the United States

In 1976, there were

approximately 1,179,300 legal abortions performed in the United States

this data clearly shows that legalizing abortion seems to also increase number of abortions.

Even today, when some states made abortion illegal, number of abortions is still higher than it was in 1973 and 1974.

So contrary to popular belief, number of abortions didnt decrease when you look from start of legalization.

In 1970, the legal abortion ratio in the United States was approximately

52 per 1,000 live births, or about 193,000 reported legal abortions, according to data from Johnston's Archive and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention | CDC (.gov). This followed the legalization of abortion in a few states, most notably New York, earlier that year.

193,000 legal abortions is much less than 1,1 million legal abortions today.

Yes, abortion is a practical solution to many problems.

Though should be utilised sensibly.

That is why the women are trusted with that right, not men.

That is why the women are trusted with that right, not men.

Because they are better at killing?

The6 take that right more seriously and apply it only in extreme cases.

Women can be extremely extreme.

Humans kill millions upon millions of living organisms on a daily basis.

It's how the system works.

Picking and choosing what it is right and wrong to kill is human overthink.

Notwithstanding that millions upon millions of eggs, sperm and zygotes are pissed down the pan on a daily basis without any thought at all.

We are a species of contradictory and hypocritical overthinkers.

I dont think women have right to destroy their children.

They haves right to their own bodies.

there is no country where you have right to your body.

Europe gives more bodily rights to individuals than the US.

No, not really. You cannot have abortion at later time. And you cannot do many things with your body, such as suicide or self harm.

Somehow same argument of body ownership which applies to abortion in early stages, doesnt apply at all to later stage of pregnancy.

And no, no country in Europe has any law which gives you complete ownership over your body. Most dont even have basic free speech.

Its "you own your body" until I say you dont.

Abortion is legal in most of Europe with 43 of 49 countries allowing it on request during early pregnancy (typically up to 12 -14 weeks).

How many allow it after 20 weeks? How many allow it after 30 weeks?

In the interests of some sort of ethical standard, relative to cellular development and appreciable status, I personally think that 5 weeks is late enough.

Any woman that knowingly has unprotected sex, should in most cases be able to address the issue easily within 5 weeks, if not the next day.

Several European countries allowing it on abortion after 20 weeks, generally upto 24 weeks on request. Or basedon broad social grounds including the Netherlands (24 weeks) , UK (23 weeks 6 days), Sweden (18 weeks on request up to 22weeks easily).

This is why Debby is a bot, it cannot parse 2 questions at the same time.

Its "you own your body" until they say you dont.

A lot of these people who argue for pure "body autonomy" cant point me to one single country which has any such law in general sense.

Why is the upper limit 18 weeks? Or 24 weeks?

Why does your body stop being yours after 24 weeks of pregnancy?

the answer is simple, these people dont believe in their own arguments.

No one actually believes in body autonomy, especially not Europe where you can go to prison for speech and many did.

This is why Debby is a bot

One of SatanLucy's AI girlfriends perhaps?

One of SatanLucy's AI girlfriends perhaps?

No, she isnt mine. I dont hide that I have bunch of AI girlfriend apps, tho Debby isn't one of them.

Thank you for telling the truth. Debby is not a bot but Avery likeable person.