Election Day Holiday?

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I was wondering, why don't any US states have Election Day off as a holiday? I know some States let government workers off that day, knowing for the most part where that demographic is going to vote regarding the status quo.


But why not all the non-government workers as well? Why suppress the private sector working-class vote?

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#2 •••
@Shoresy

I mean, the party generally in favor of this is the one you tend to oppose. If you're implying the Democrats are orchestrating some conspiracy here, it seems odd they are the ones more inclined to so something like this. 4/5 states that mandate time off for voting are Democrat run.

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@Savant

Clearly, neither party has done this in 200 years in any state.... not sure why you want to jump to partisan propaganda on this, it doesn't move the needle.


The legislation you posted isn't remotely as accommodating as a statewide holiday. They technically give access, but in practice, they’re nothing like a real state-wide holiday off.

First, you’re squeezed into a narrow window. like maybe 1–3 hours, often at the employer’s convenience. You're basically being asked to fit a civic duty into a lunch break. A holiday gives you control of the entire day, which means you can avoid lines, go when you want, and not rush. And this is the big reason of my OP, voting should take at least an entire day to think about the importance of something that could last a decade or more.

The legislation is highly conditional when employers can say you already have enough time before or after your shift, so you don’t qualify. A statewide holiday removes that gatekeeping. You may have to request time, give notice, or even take it unpaid. Every extra step drops participation. A holiday has zero friction, you just go vote. So yeah, those laws keep the system legally covered, but they’re nowhere near the same as accommodating as an actual state-wide holiday....

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@Shoresy

I'm no fan of the DNC, but you typically seem more critical of the left in the context of American politics, so when you make a broad criticism of the American political system, I assume you see more fault with the Democrats. It's fine to make nonpartisan arguments, though, if that's what you're doing. I shouldn't have assumed.

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@Savant

And also, I state a fact that a state-wide holiday helps facilitate working voters more than unemployed voters, and you imply that this qualifies as a "conspiracy theory" seems to indicate that you are a type of person who ignores incentives and consequences and would actively obscure facts to avoid both.


That's definitely not going to move the needle on this discussion.

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@Shoresy

The U.S. private industry is obligated to allow workers time-off to vote, and cannot impose on that allowance, so no holiday is required. It is an expected allowance because voting day s no secret so businesses can adequately plan accordingly to allow a couple of hours of time off. Virtually all phones today log date/time for each photo and preserve it as part of the metadata. This feature can be shutoff by the user on most phones, but who would want to do that if they want to prove their voting day actions?

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@fauxlaw

Maybe federal action is required to franchise working voters on voting day?

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@Shoresy
And also, I state a fact that a state-wide holiday helps facilitate working voters more than unemployed voters, and you imply that this qualifies as a "conspiracy theory" seems to indicate that you are a type of person who ignores incentives and consequences and would actively obscure facts to avoid both.

Isn't implementing things like that with a hidden agenda effectively a conspiracy? I'm not even saying conspiracies don't happen, I'm saying it doesn't make much sense that not giving private industry workers time off would be a scheme to help Dems when Dems are the ones pushing for them to have time off on election day.

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Earlier [post #6] I implied there was a federal statute imposed on private industry to allow voters time off to vote on Election Day. There is such a bill which IU was thinking already passed, but it has been stuck in House committee for the last 4 years with no evidence that it will move out of committee any rime soon. 21 States currently have no federal, state or county statute making that a requirement, so it is only 29 states that do so.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@Shoresy

Some folk vote, some folk don't and voting takes as long as it takes to get to the voting station and vote...Here, a ten minute stroll in the evening.


Though a day off work was always welcome.


I am retired now, I never vote and nor do I take any interest in the associated televised melodrama.


And it's not as if the old work ethic of 167 hours a week down pit is applicable...(An attempt at portraying the Yorkshire vernacular there)

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