Fallacies of the Democratic Socialists of America, Part 10

What you are responding to does not mention race, so that part of the rant can be dismissed as irrelevant.

As for the suggestion that housing is a privelege. What? Its true children arent of age to sign a lease contract, but that doesnt mean they have no expectation of living under a roof. That is completely bonkers. Everyone is justified in expecting shelter.

The true privelege in this scenario is being able to own a spare dwelling. Let us set the correct perspective.

Greed is the primary issue on Earth, that, has finite set of resources, and ecological environment, that, also has limits to its ability to support 8.5 billion humans ---and growing at slower rate finally--- who is moving toward the limits of Earths ecological environment at a faster rate.

Earth's bio-sphere is our home, existent within a hostile ionizing semi-vacuum of outer space.

Respect of our home is anti-thesis of greed.

"Housing is a human right. Build new, publicly-owned social housing, strictly regulate investment properties, establish universal rent control, and guarantee the right to counsel for all tenants." - DSA 

Gotta love the contradiction in this line of the manifesto.

Housing is a human right. Also, we will regulate people who want to invest in building houses.

Who would want to live in a world where all codified freedoms are stripped away from individuals and are handed over to a bureaucracy, free to do whatever it wants to do? It's only a "human" right for government humans.

This isn't just about housing. It's about transferring more authority and rights from individuals to the government.

Gotta love the contradiction in this line of the manifesto.

I dont recall posting that or any link to it.

Governor on older lawn mowers etc, existed to regulate the motor from running too hot { out or control }.

Governance is regulating the economics so it doest run to hot, our of control, price gorging etc. Learn better what happen to USA in 1920's maybe you will begin to grasp a larger and more wholistic set of circumstances for humanity on a Earth with limited resources.

Housing is a human right. Also, we will regulate people who want to invest in building houses.

See above cause if you think all business is going operate under some guise of morality, then your not yet familiar with the word greed.

Who would want to live in a world where all codified freedoms are stripped away from individuals and are handed over to a bureaucracy, free to do whatever it wants to do? It's only a "human" right for government humans.

Who wants to live ---and humanities existence in longer term-- l in a world where greed is what all humans desire above all else and what counts and less moral concerns that the ecological systems that sustain humanity for the longest time periods going forward with basic needs, will be maintained without corruption, excessive pollution etc.

In fact, your "human right" to cut your own grass is non-existent in many of the crap states.

This series is in parts. This part is about housing, only. The other issues you mention are in other parts.

It's all lyrical parts for the same song.

And, as I said in my criticism in Part 10: Housing is not a right. It is a privilege. Minor children cannot sign contracts to own or rent housing. Rights are universally applied, meaning they cannot be restricted by any qualification, except by the exercise of one individual's right, by which that individual cannot cause harm to another. That's why yelling "Fire" in a crowded room is not legal. It's an error made all the time. Many so-called rights are really privileges. Language means things.

This isn't about Housing or humans. It's about promoting government rights over individual rights.

Government rights justify force and violence against the individual. (AKA taxation, regulations, and the draft)

Individual rights mean the individual can use justified force against the government. (2nd Amendment)

Both of these are in your Constitution.

Yes, but a song of 23 verses. A bit long, in my book, but then, I always laugh at what attorneys call "briefs." My next oldest brother, a physician, always jokes about calling his profession "practice,' because that is what it always seems to be. Lawyers share that distinction without a difference. "Professional?" my brother deadpans.

And they both use a dead language to refer to everything,

Because the language of the dead is full of lived experiences.

Latina sapientiam mortuorum servat.

In fact, your "human right" to cut your own grass is non-existent in many of the crap states.

I think you have a ' crap states ' mentality in general, regarding not a human cutting their lawn and many other humans like to do.

You could care less about what humanity via greed is doing to our ecological systems that sustain the greedy, the less greedy, and those who would like to see a fair set of basic humans standards in place of all of humanity, cut the greed grass out of humanities future.

...all for one and one for all is the only spiritual pathway for humanties longer term existence on Earth..... old news for those paying attention to reality, and not living in some fantasy world of, humanity is the best thing going on in and for Universe etc type thinking.

Night and day of the walking brain dead is what were seeing more of and more of on Earth. You can run from truth and hide from truth yet truth is exists irrespective of where we run, or often we try and hide from it. Fantasy land is place of hiding from truth of reality. I know cause I too go there tho in differrent ways than you

You could care less about what humanity via greed is doing to our ecological systems that sustain the greedy, the less greedy, and those who would like to see a fair set of basic humans standards in place of all of humanity, cut the greed grass out of humanities future.

This is backwards thinking. Animals adapt to their environment. Extinct animals attempt to have the environment adapt to them.

Greed is evolution.

Surrender is extinction.

"Why can't you just ignore" Democratic Socialists LOL.

lol

Says the guy who’s on his 10th post about an advocacy group that has no governing power.

This is backwards thinking.

Your in denial of obvious truths regarding greeds affect on Earth climate > all animals ex coral reefs etc > ergo the effects on humanities money rules over all, forward way lack of intelligence combined with empathy/fellings, ergo, bringing end of huamanity closer at faster rate.

Animals adapt to their environment. Extinct animals attempt to have the environment adapt to them.

Your clueless by choice as to the effects of humanities greed.

Camels, the pride of heat and dry conditions are dying desert conditions in northern Africa.

Coral reefs --support of countless marine life-- dying from heat, acidifying oceans etc.

The existence of less and less marine life in general in our ocean and increase of polutant do to human greed.

You and others need to claw your way of the mental denial shell your stuck in and see reality for the truth that exists.

Greed is evolution.

You have confused mental condition at best and at worst.........

Balance and abundance of ecological life is not what is occuring. Greed is humanities choice.

Surrender is extinction.

Humanities extinction percentage chance of extinction is growing , not decreasing.

Your stuck in denial shell and afraid of obvious ecological realities situations ergo humanities shorter term existence.

Talking to you is like talking to closed clam shell that has dug itself into the mud to hide from realities obvious truths.

The closed greedy clam evolves and endures.

The open clam's empathy..

is devoured by natural entropy.

I think you have turned being wrong into an artform.

Shoresy wrote:

The closed greedy clam evolves and endures.

Nonsense, evolutionary progress has always been a matter of reaching out beyond the individual’s boundaries to set a more inclusive boundary, extending themselves by incorporating and aggregating has always been the engine of progress in evolutionary terms. Isolation (greed) is always an evolutionary dead end; and progress (altruism) is always a matter of participation in common goals. From the very beginning, this is basically how evolution has occurred, hydrogen atoms fuse into helium and then complex elements, to larger structures, molecules, crystals, and then organic molecules, evolutions is always fusing and growing to become more, large collections of organic molecules fuse into life in the form of single cells, procaryotes fused into eukaryotes, life was growing and incorporating others to become multicellular, primates become clans, groups, societies, and civilizations, it’s all one movement. We are continuous with everything that came before, in the end, we are a large, motile colony of respirating bacteria, operating a complex system of nuclei, microtubules, and neurons pursuing pleasure and sustenance, and right now, typing on a computer.

The open clam's empathy..

is devoured by natural entropy.

There is a reason that we are at our happiest when we feel we are part of something bigger, the effort we expend as part of a team is magnified, and the most satisfying goals we can accomplish are the common goals. We are at our best when we transcend the realm in which our own materiality is located and adopt a perspective that defines life as good in terms of the contribution made to others. I believe that when we transcend our own ego consciousness and extend our awareness and being to include the experience created in others by our effort, what makes us happy is alignment with the flow of life, and it is the same flow that single celled creatures aligned with to fuse into a greater being, a metazoan. We are participating in a continuing process that brought single separate cells together for the construction of procaryotes, eukaryotes, metazoans, hives, hills, colonies, cultures, and civilizations.

Just go with the flow man.

Yes fitted kitchens and integrated smart design for all...With a garage and a pool...At a price of course.

And for those deadbeats addicted to prescription drugs and narcotics etc.....Hmmmmmm yes, I'm currently busy and will have to get back to you on that one.

Have a nice day.

The closed greedy clam evolves and endures.

Nature endures, irrespective of the amount of pollution humanity throws away in it consumer first greed ---far beyond need-- mentality.

Head in hole ground is like the cartoon I recall --The Ostrich Metaphor in Editorial Cartoons-- -for those want to remain in denial of truth of all Ive mentioned to you previously.

You may consider watching the 2010 movie 180 Degrees South. Grassroots campaign continues to battle $10-billion mega project against Pinochet Dams LINK

You may consider Florida's #1 in most polluted lakes, and #2 in most polluted rivers, and new laws being proposed telling polluters it if find to pollute as long as those who pollute pay for it. Pay for polluting? Does that equal, ...stop polluting and clean pollution youve dumped already.... or does it mean you will be out of pocket money, and nothing changes.

Then there is latest news on a may years changing unknowns of EL Ninos impact. Oceans increase temperature on El Nino. Red is forecasted increase in global temperatues

Forecasters predict a 63% chance of sea surface temperatures exceeding 2.0°C in the Nino-monitored region of the Pacific.

Oh yeah, your head is n hole-in-ground, so ocean temp.and acidifying oceans may only effect your butt stick out of the hole in ground. Your head will be save from all of humanities greed affects. Reminds me of the 2nd George Bush who in his first presidency with comments that there is no Global Warming, to saying by his 2nd term, yes there is Global Warming, its just not caused by humans.

So Saudis in Arabia are gettting nukes, as USA is in new war bombing Iran a year after all in power stated that Irans nuclear capabilites were obliterated in 2025. So all nuclear abilities was obliterated in 2025, yet here we yet another unnecessary war built on lies and scare tactics.

Fallacies of humans pretense of being intelligent, forward thinking for the whole of humanity. Bombs/missles Away!

Isolation (greed) is always an evolutionary dead end; and progress (altruism) is always a matter of participation in common goals.

Greed often recognizes the real mechanisms behind the survival of the fittest traits. Evolution. Is it greed when one Eaglet kills another nestmate, or simply an evolutionary survival of the one over survival of none? Greed is often a moral label applied to behaviors rooted in evolutionary competition. Evolution is indifferent to fairness and arbitrary morality. Nature is concerned with fitness, not virtues or signals.

Altruism is the surrender of those fit traits due to the idea that surrender to all things is a fit trait itself. The evolutionary opposite of greed is not charity but indiscriminate altruism. Evolution favors selective cooperation between two greedy people who want the same thing, not unconditional surrender. Even you have your own selective tribe on these forums; hence, no real altruism yourself.

True charity isn't altruism; it's mutual survival of tribes inclusive ONLY of the fittest with the fittest traits who do NOT blindly INCLUDE unfit traits (like socialism, communism, Islam...etc...)...Charity requires mutual civic duty to a local cause for the ultimate purpose of survival. Nobody in America has that emotional civic duty to their neighbor anymore. You guys all gave that duty and responsibility over to unelected bureaucrats, with no more feeling or emotion than an AI program.

Nonsense, evolutionary progress has always been a matter of reaching out beyond the individual’s boundaries to set a more inclusive boundary.

The statement assumes what it seeks to prove. You define 'progress' as expanding the boundary of inclusion and then conclude with a causation fallacy that evolution has progressed because boundaries expanded. But evolution has no moral direction and no altruism. And history provides no evidence that simply blindly becoming more inclusive is what made societies successful. The human immune system is a testament to your fallacy.

What historically and scientifically distinguished successful groups was not their willingness to include more people indiscriminately, but their ability to sustain cooperation through shared norms, incentives, and institutions. Groups that admitted members without regard to whether they contributed to the group's survival often disappeared, while groups that maintained effective rules and expectations endured. Look at the fall of Rome for why this is the general case.

The real relevant question is not whether a society expands or removes its boundaries, substituting local civic duty with the duty to include everyone, but whether those it includes strengthen or weaken the institutions upon which the society depends. Inclusion is not a virtue in itself; it is beneficial only insofar as it reinforces the conditions that make cooperation possible. Most Americans today identify as American secondarily, or not at all. It's on the path of "hyper-inclusive" Rome. AKA extinction.

"There is a reason that we are at our happiest when we feel we are part of something bigger, the effort we expend as part of a team is magnified, and the most satisfying goals we can accomplish are the common goals. We are at our best when we transcend the realm in which our own materiality is located and adopt a perspective that defines life as good in terms of the contribution made to others."

This begins with a moral assumption, not an argument. It assumes "transcending ego" is inherently superior. Superior by what standard? Happiness? Survival? Productivity? Liberty? What if that "feeling" is something out of a Fellini movie where you are actually surrendering your progeny's future, believing it was all "worthwhile"? You have already chosen a moral endpoint before presenting evidence. Blind contribution to others in the evolutionary biological sense usually boils down to one main thing: food for the fittest. If your Fellini reality contradicts this biological reality, then enjoy your fake steak in the matrix for as long as the fittest allow you to be plugged into the Fellini matrix.

"Flow of life"

Evolution has no "flow." It has mutation, selection, competition against the unfit, cooperation among the fittest, extinction, and adaptation.

Your pithy phrase turns a descriptive biological process into something resembling a spiritual force.

"...the same flow that single celled creatures aligned with to fuse into a greater being..."

This is the biggest leap of all.

Cells did not "align" toward a common purpose. Natural selection favored organisms whose traits happened to persist.

There was no conscious decision or universal tendency toward cooperation. The success of today's generation of surviving species was built on the bones of trillions of extinct species, not the inclusion of them. That's why we call it natural selection and not natural inclusion.

Many organisms never became multicellular and yet remain extraordinarily successful today.

"...We are participating in a continuing process..."

This is true only in the very real sense that we are a part of the cycle of history. Again, this implies that history has a natural destination.

History isn't a staircase. It's full of civilizations that rose and collapsed. Empires fragmented. Cultures disappeared. Progress is neither inevitable nor continuous, regardless of what one may "feel" during a collapse period inside a doomed society about the real future.

"...procaryotes, eukaryotes, metazoans, hives, hills, colonies, cultures, and civilizations."

And this is the crown jewel of all the fallacies.

You've mistaken an observable historical pattern for a universal moral law. Evolution does not strive toward larger or more inclusive forms of organization; it exclusively selects whatever arrangements improve survival under particular conditions. Sometimes that has meant larger cooperative systems. Sometimes it has meant specialization, competition, fragmentation, or exclusion. Human societies succeed not because they continually transcend the individual, but because they develop institutions that allow cooperation while preserving the incentives, knowledge, and constraints on which cooperation depends. You have converted one aspect of observed biology into a moral narrative without demonstrating that one ALWAYS follows from the other. In fact, the bones of much larger and more complex (overly complex) life can be regularly found in museums today.

I believe that when we transcend our own ego consciousness and extend our awareness and being to include the experience created in others by our effort, what makes us happy is alignment with the flow of life.

Your philosophy implies that history and evolution have a final destination, a state in which the individual has fully transcended itself through ever-greater inclusion. Putting aside the obvious fallacy of inclusion in an exclusionary evolution framework: Let's assume that if that final destination were ever reached, then growth itself would cease. A process whose purpose is to transcend all boundaries, including evolution, and also transcending purpose! If transcendence is the ultimate goal, what happens when it is achieved? Either the process never reaches its destination, making the goal forever unattainable, or it does, in which case development itself comes to an end. Your philosophy seems to observe joy in the endless journey fighting natural entropy while simultaneously claiming there is the same joy when all purpose is transcended. Your own philosophy seems to eliminate the conditions that make progress meaningful.

I'll press X to doubt that idea.

The highest transcendence is self-defeating because, once achieved, there is nothing left to transcend. Forget the macro scale; you see this all the time presently with the tragedies of the lives of countless nepo-babies, who wrongly think there is nothing left to struggle over. How do you transcend the misery of transcendence itself? This is a paradox I think that deserves discussion.

What you are responding to does not mention race, so that part of the rant can be dismissed as irrelevant.

You are correct. Part 10 of the DSA rant does not mention race, so I do not, either. In those parts that do, I make my response accordingly. It's called focus. Sorry for the 50-cent word.

This Part 10 is about rights vs privileges, because they are separate considerations, not identical. That, too, is focus. Many so-called rights are not rights for the reasons I defined herein. What many consider rights are privileges. I know that is a word many of the woke have deleted from their dictionaries. It is still in my OED, so I use it when it applies.

"Why can't you just ignore" Democratic Socialists LOL.

Education?

an advocacy group that has no governing power.

Myopic, anyone? A mayor of a fairly big and influential town, at least one Demo governor who is/are stated groupie[s], a fair number of Democrats, and, apparently, a couple of Repubs who agree who are current members of Congress, and a handful more of wannabes. Check your daily news cycle.

And I have acknowledged in one of the Parts - may not yet be published - that, though DSA is not officially a registered national party, they certainly have political influence on those who have power.

Part 10 of the DSA rant does not mention race, so I do not, either.

Maybe you weren't aware, but the readers can scroll to the top of this page to see a rant, your rant, about race - 2 paragraphs worth.

Greed often recognizes the real mechanisms behind the survival of the fittest traits.

Huhh? Still clueless to more comprehensive grasp of humanity and its lack of empathy combined with our mis-aligned ergp, so called intelligent behaviors.on Earths finite planet with finite resources. Opening eyes and ears while head is in hole in ground does little to help a human have more comprehensive grasp of the pathway humanity is on.

Awareness > Consideration > Acknowledgement to self > Acknowledgement to others > Action or keep head in hole in ground with butt sticking into the warming air and oceans and ionizing radiation

Reminds of trying to predict Crisis of Erratic Climate Change due too:

1} Greenhouse Effect > AI... ' 1824 > 1856 > 1859...' > and for me personally it was B Fullers book Critical Path { 1979 } he mentions Greenhouse Effect

2} Global Warming > AI....' 1896 > 1938 > 1958 { American Chemist Charles Keeling } >

..... 1965 Scientists first issued formal, high-level warnings about human-caused climate change in 1965 when the President's Science Advisory Committee** warned President Lyndon B. Johnson** that burning fossil fuels could cause "marked changes in climate" by the year 2000. '...https://www.cfr.org/education/learn/timelines/climate-science-history

3} Erratic Climate Change ...' According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), "Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."1

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

Awareness > Consideration > Acknowledgement to self > Acknowledgement to others > Action or keep head in hole in ground with butt sticking into the warming air and oceans and ionizing radiation

AI...' Medical procedures, not environmental isotopes, are the primary cause of human-increased ionizing radiation exposure. While** plutonium and cesium are significant anthropogenic (manmade) radionuclides linked to nuclear weapons, reactors, and accidents**, they are responsible for less than 1% of the public's total radiation dose '..

https://www.ans.org/nuclear/radiation/exposure/

Faux post > "Housing is a human right. Build new, publicly-owned social housing, strictly regulate investment properties, establish universal rent control, and guarantee right to counsel for all tenants."

AI...' Independent Estimates: Independent analyses, such as the Iran War Cost Tracker, suggest that the true military total already exceeds $42 billion, or up to $113.3 billion if counting all ongoing unbudgeted operational layers '..

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2026/0708/iran-war-costs-pentagon

And that is primarily costs of an unnecessary war of choice due to lack of empathy and greed { lack of truly intelligent humans }.

How many homes or other USA citizens needs etc could be built or other with 37.billon { Pete Hegseth Pentagon }, or 70 billion { other source estimates }, or 113 billion mentioned above?

Faux post > The completion of the Human Genome Project in 2003 confirmed humans are 99.9% identical at the DNA level and there is no genetic basis for race." 

No race distinction by those humans with head in hole in ground and butt sticking out into the warming temperatues and Erratic Climate Change is no surprise to humans who believe in truth and not misleading false narrative.

OMGod! Get head out of hole in ground and smell the obvious rose's of ongoing racist white supremacy that has been going on for at least 500 years.

And then there is ..'manosphere... movement and this reflects the largest differrence humanities concern for empathy and intelligence by not only white supremacists, it also includes men X y choosing dominance attitude over women X x.

AI...' Yes, some scientific studies suggest that women's brains show more bilateral (both-sided) symmetry and activity, especially during language and verbal tasks, while men often show more lateralized (one-sided) brain function. However, overall brain organization is complex, and researchers emphasize that individual variation is much larger than differences between sexes. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] '...

https://stanmed.stanford.edu/how-mens-and-womens-brains-are-different/