Fallacies of the Democratic Socialists of America, Part 10

Both of the quotes you claim in your #30 are not quotes from me as you will notice by more careful reading, but are cited statements of others. Do not put words in my mouth, please.

You complain that "How many homes or other USA citizens needs etc could be built or others with 37 billion..." Boo-hoo. To such retorts, I said, in Part 6: "Billionaires are a criminal class? Show me the statute that forbids an attitude of ambition, planning, and execution ➝ billionaire. This lack is self-made by lazy people who have no interest in "ambition, planning, and execution," such as seeking more education. You read, didn't you, that the >30M in the US who live under the poverty level do not have even a free high-school education. Nor, apparently, did you read that such dropped out of school before completing high school. Their choice. So, I don't need to hear what any amount of money could be spent by taxpayers for those who choose to limit their own contribution due to laziness.

Both of the quotes you claim in your #30 are not quotes from me as you will notice by more careful reading, but are cited statements of others. Do not put words in my mouth, please.

Quotes by me were used because the comments --irrespective of where your got them from--- were posted by you, ergo quotes used to signify they came from your message/posting. I used your name and > arrow to make/aid in the distinction from another quote in that same reply message, that included referencing Sidewalker quote were I used his name and > to his commentary.

Sorry if my approach was not clear enough. I presume you posted the info because you agree with it, ergo, you reposting of those comments. I should have added that in imy quote. Here is the source of that comment. Sorry for the error Fauxlaw ...- DSA https://program.dsausa.org/

You complain that "How many homes or other USA citizens needs etc could be built or others with 37 billion..."

Yes that is correct. Wasted m money on unnecessary war with Iran, that Trump initiated along with Netanyahu.

Boo-hoo. To such retorts, I said, in Part 6: "Billionaires are a criminal class?

I dont recall my saying anything in response to your above quoted comment. Give me my posting were I made any comment regarding this above. I think your confused.

Show me the statute that forbids an attitude of ambition, planning, and execution ➝ billionaire.

Huhh? Again, I dont recall some comment by regarding this specific you keep referencing. I certainly made no comment about any statues in those regards. I think your confused.

This lack is self-made by lazy people who have no interest in "ambition, planning, and execution," such as seeking more education.

Huhh! What are you going on about? Are those quotes something I posted? I think your confused.

You read, didn't you, that the >30M in the US who live under the poverty level do not have even a free high-school education. Nor, apparently, did you read that such dropped out of school before completing high school.

Huhh? I dropped out of school to make money and buy car, pay for ciggerttes etc kinds of stuff to take care of myself more and more. If there was a governance that did not allow that, and offerred more help to families whose children were not doing well with their grades, would be better for all of humanity. I was not a problem teenager with my parents, neighbors or any lawenforcement then or ever in my life.

I dont recall for sure, if my mother signed some paperwork from school saying she gave her permission for me to quit school. I was 16 years old.

I had years of nearly flunking out in every grade. My mother kept me{ 7th grade } and my sister { 3rd grade } back a year the same year. I felt like there was no point in my continued schooling cause I was learning so little and I needed money more than the little I was learning and mostly not learning much at school. In 9th grade my friend an I were asked by teacher to find old lawn more engine and take apart and rebuild to learn something.

My friend and rebuilt the engine and ours was the only one that restarted one time, then we could never get it running again, and, I was wearing sandals in school and my foot slid into the cooling rotor blades and tore into side of my foot. The teacher then banned sandals in his class.

Humanity is greedy. I too am part of that greed. I went on three minimal costs cruises on ships for the experience of sea-ship and exotic places of another country. I read ahead of time all of the negatives of cruise ship industry yet I wanted the experience more. Once was one greed, going three times was excessive greed on my part, in world where humanity is destroying the ecological enivironment that sustains them.

If you want to address those concerns, then you and I have to address these and many other excesses ---greed-- that humanity should not being doing as it is taxing our ecological environment. You apparrently are clueless in these regards? That is what I believe. If Im incorrect then address those comments as presented in previous posts in this thread.

Their choice. So, I don't need to hear what any amount of money could be spent by taxpayers for those who choose to limit their own contribution due to laziness.

Yeah, you have no empathy for others apparrently from your above comments. Humanity is too greedy and yes, billionares ---in general-- are most likely the most obvious problems with humanities greed, that, is destroying the ecological environment.

If and when you want to address those issues, please do. You do not and the question becomes, why you dont address those issues I address in this thread.

70 billion is better spent for all of the reasons I mentioned above and much more, in educating our children of all ages, and the adults with truth of the ecological environment that I believe if going to cause the end of humanity sooner rather than later, on our precious bio-sphere Earth.

Intellect is worthless with out empathy for the family of humanity, in that we all share the Earths resources. ....all for one and one for all... is the only way humanity will survive longer term rather than shorter term, with the least amount of sufferring. Now address that comment. Please as this about intellect combined with empathy for all Ive mentioned above.

Nothing more nothing less.

Democratic Socialism is so last year, it's communism now, try to keep up.

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I presume you posted the info because you agree with it,

You presume incorrectly. Otherwise, I would not post this entire series. I do not merely quote people with whom I agree. I quote, and mark it as such with open-and-close quotes, because it is not my material. But to think I agree with everything I post in quotes is poor scholarship.

You greeniew whacko alarmists fail to think in geologic time. In a thousand years, the scars of Exon Valdex, the Mt. St. Helens volcanic blast, the Chornobyl nuclear disaster, and whatnot will be covered in new old-growth forest and new ocean floor. It will be fine. Not in your lifetime, but so what? The Earth is going nowhere without it healing itself. It's been through far worse than we can do, and thrives. We just cannot expect geologic time to occur in speed dial. Not5 for all the billionairees y'all can rip-off can Earth's ree-healing be accelerated, simply because Earth does not speak dollars. Foreign language, my friend, and always has been.

But to think I agree with everything I post in quotes is poor scholarship.

Better scholarship and communication would be for you to state what you belief in regards to what post, and even more so when, such lack of comment by you on the specifics when this issues arises.

You still offer no comment of what you believe in regards to your posting of others in quotes.

Consider your personal scholarship abilities as much others as a show you have credible integrity in these regards to what you present in messages.

You greeniew whacko alarmists fail to think in geologic time.

Huh? Ecologoical environemtent that sustains biological life on Earth in your view is labelled as ..'greenview whacko '.. is lack of --if not purely head-in-hole in ground denial of obvious truths.

In a thousand years, the scars of Exon Valdex, the Mt. St. Helens volcanic blast, the Chornobyl nuclear disaster, and whatnot will be covered in new old-growth forest and new ocean floor.

Ive stated nothing about Mt Saint Helens in my comments. Your confused. My comments are regards to Erratic Climate Change due to human activities. Your in denial of obvious scientific truths. Even George Bush the junior had more integrity in these regards than you. He took his head out of the ground long enough to speak truth.

Your still still running away of truth of Greenhouse Effect > Global Warming > Erratic Climate Change.

It will be fine. Not in your lifetime, but so what?

I didnt say my lifetime. The only timeline prediction Ive made, based on my personal ad hoc formulae, was 2015 and Ive addressed that many times, that, we are beyond that date.

The Earth is going nowhere without it healing itself.

Ive not stated anything about Earth not healing itself. My comments are about whether humanity will survive with least amount of suffering, within your above mentianed ....' thousand year '... time line of consideration. Read my lips/text { George Bush Senior }, and address obvious truths in regards to humanities damage to our ecological environment.

You will have to take your head out of hole in ground denial to do so. Obviously you fear admission of obvious truths in those regards. Old news

It's been through far worse than we can do, and thrives.

Again, your want to divert from what Im stating and going off in some misleading direction instead. No where have I ever stated anything about Earth coming to an end etc type comments. Please try to have a little more integrity Faux. This appears to me to be an issue with you since Ive been reading yours posts over a year or whatever.

that when confronted with truths you want to deny, you mislead

We just cannot expect geologic time to occur in speed dial. Not5 for all the billionairees y'all can rip-off can Earth's ree-healing be accelerated, simply because Earth does not speak dollars. Foreign language, my friend, and always has been

Huhh? What are ranting about? You appear to be loosing contact with reality here above. Stick to what Im saying not your misleading, diversion off into some where that makes no sense. .

lol, I saw msnow and thought M. Snow as in massive snow.

Yes, word association and misinterpretation can lead to all sorts of sticky situations.

Better scholarship and communication would be for you to state what you belief in regards to what post

Really? Just what do you think the first paragraph of my #1 post was? It's not a quote of someone else. It is a statement of my own belief, which happens to be the definition of "rights" as opposed to "privileges," in response to the confused

DSA, which thinks rights are universally applied. Minors do not, as it happens, have the privilege to vote. Unregistered people, even citizens, do not have the privilege to vote.

Really? Just what do you think the first paragraph of my #1 post was?

See message #34, where you state otherwise in these regards

It's not a quote of someone else. It is a statement of my own belief, which happens to be the definition of "rights" as opposed to "privileges," in response to the confused

See message #34 again. Now your making this whole issue even more confusing, and misleading.

DSA, which thinks rights are universally applied. Minors do not, as it happens, have the privilege to vote. Unregistered people, even citizens, do not have the privilege to vote

See messsage #34 as your are confused person, who is is denial of so many obvious truths, as Ive clearly laid out previously. For most part your confused and want to misdirect and mislead others.While speaking from hole-in-ground postion..

See message #34 again. Now your making this whole issue even more confusing, and misleading.

OK, here's my post #34, in total, including a citation of your post #32, criticizing me:

@ebuc

I presume you posted the info because you agree with it,

My #34: "You presume incorrectly. Otherwise, I would not post this entire series. I do not merely quote people with whom I agree. I quote, and mark it as such with open-and-close quotes, because it is not my material. But to think I agree with everything I post in quotes is poor scholarship."

That is all #34 said. Yet, you claim [your #41] my #34 said:

It's not a quote of someone else. It is a statement of my own belief, which happens to be the definition of "rights" as opposed to "privileges," in response to the confused

DSA, which thinks rights are universally applied. Minors do not, as it happens, have the privilege to vote. Unregistered people, even citizens, do not have the privilege to vote

Neither of your two comments above are from my post #34. Who's confused? There should be no confusion over what constitutes "rights' and what are "privileges."

In a socialist country individual rights are not promoted against the greater good.