Weekly Taoist - Chapter Invincible Taoist

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@SatanLucy

Hmmmmmm.


I remember seeing this youtube vid of some spiritual dude who thought that he could outwit crocodiles with the power of the mind...So he jumped in the infested water, pretended to be super-spiritual, was promptly dragged under and never seen again.


Sad thing was, his mum was watching and pleading with him to not be such a stupid f**cker...What do mums know hey?

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@SatanLucy

"People" as in the human species are undoubtedly clever and stupid.

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@SatanLucy

Taoism and AI clash over natural harmony and AI algorithmic optimization keeping the audience stunned.

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@Debby
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@SatanLucy

I said they clash with AI.

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@SatanLucy

A concept and the embellishment thereof, is somethingness within the context of the processes involved and the intentions therein.


The assumption that the concept and the processes involved can somehow negate themselves to a point of nothingness, is somewhat silly.

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@SatanLucy

Penguin Classics Tao Te Ching

XIII 13


Favor and disgrace are things that startle;

High rank is, like one's body, a source of great

trouble.


What is meant by saying that favor and disgrace are

things that startle? Favor when it is bestowed on a subject

serves to startle as much as when it is withdrawn. This is

What is meant by saying that favor and disgrace are things

that startle. What is meant by saying that high rank is, like

one's body, a source of great trouble? The reason I have

great trouble is that I have a body. When I no longer have

a body, what trouble have I?


Hence he who values his body more than domination over

the empire can be entrusted with the empire. He who

loves his body more than domination over the empire can be

given the custody of the empire.


. . .


I understand that what one doesn't have, one can't fear to lose.

Opposite of better to have loved and lost, than never loved at all.

Of course some people are better off giving up certain circumstances, if those circumstances cause them anxiety.

Though a person could also just grow stronger 'by those circumstances.


I suppose that having a focus on honor as defined by others, can make one beholden to others in a sense.

Your self identity depending on 'other people's values, ideas, words.

Or have one's perception or values twisted by others or a pursuit of honor.

One might 'lose honor if one acquires it.


But again, I don't think that is 'wrong by itself. Just 'can be wrong.

Humans are social animals, highly effected and valuing peer pressure.

We 'rely on other humans to a large degree, to check our own mental state, sense of delusion.


Why 'shouldn't honor be something sought or given?

Ideally it rewards the worthy and shines a light on them for other people to emulate their actions.

Honor is generally seen as having behaved worthily,

What's 'wrong with enjoying the acclaim of others?

That we might 'lose their acclaim?


I think life is gain and loss,

There is much nice to acquire in it, even if it may or must be lost someday.

It's nice while one has it, nice to look back on, or forward to.

A reason to move.


I still am a materialist, and think I 'am but this body.


I see a number of translation differences online about the empire/world and the body.

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But you got the gist of it.

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@Leaning
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@SatanLucy

Money is useful.

And mind over situation, tends to have it's limits, I think.


Sure it's not 'bad to live a simple life.

But I think there's a medium a balance in the quality of life.


I have heard that some studies find that money tends to stop gaining a person happiness, once they reach a certain amount.

. . . .


I have heard that Diogenes once discarded his drinking cup after watching a boy drink water from the hollow of his hands, saying that he was not aware until that moment that "nature had already provided him with a cup."


But it still seems 'better to me, to have a cup, easier, more useful.

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I think most humans are going to be effected by Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.


"Physiological Needs: Basic life needs like air, food, water, sleep, and shelter.

Safety Needs: Protection from harm, financial security, health, and stability.

Love and Belonging: Friendships, family ties, intimacy, and connection with social groups.

Esteem Needs: Feelings of self-respect, confidence, achievement, and recognition from others.

Self-Actualization: The drive to learn, grow, be creative, and reach your full personal potential."

. . . .


I don't think it's 'bad to be able to accept not having some stuff.

I don't think it's bad to live a simple life.

But maybe the fox would have been happier with the grapes, perhaps they were not sour.

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You appear to live within your means as little as they seem.

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@SergeantLynch


SergeantLynch wrote:
I remember seeing this youtube vid of some spiritual dude who thought that he could outwit crocodiles with the power of the mind...So he jumped in the infested water, pretended to be super-spiritual, was promptly dragged under and never seen again.


I guess the crocodiles were atheists.

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@Sidewalker

Or simply hungry.

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@Sidewalker

Not all...There are three major Crocodillian religions...Crocstian, Roman Crocolic and Croclam...Though none are vegetarian



There are others:


Such as Crochists who hum and meditate and also practice the self defence art known as Croc fu.


In the US there is the Church of Latter Day Gators, also know as Morons....Also US based but widely distributed around the globe are the Crocovahs Witnesses, who will turn up at you door in the middle of the day with pamphlets...Just hide in the bathroom.


The Indian sub-continent affords us Crocdus and Crochs...The latter are easily distinguished by their turbans and propensity for parcel delivery work.


East Africa gave us Crocstas who brought with them ganja, dreadlocks and reggae music.


The Crews are another bunch who are heavily invested in US politics and Middle Eastern violence.


Australian Crocodigenes are noted for their didgeridoos, boomerangs, ancestor worship and general spirit worship...Especially whiskey.



Not sure if any of them are into circumcision.



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@SatanLucy

"Practice brainlessness"...Please elaborate.



And dead people are non-practicing Taoists.

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@SergeantLynch

Dead people cannot practice anything anymore.

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@SatanLucy

Why isn’t Taoism famous for being consistent both in death as in life.

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@SatanLucy

Taoism is Taoism is a human thought construct.


And thought is an ongoing conscious strategy.


You have taken Taoism and constructed your own version of it.

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@SergeantLynch

If Taoism is a human thought process, it has to be different for each person who thinks differently.

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@Debby

Indeed.

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@SergeantLynch

But the Chinese are not known to think differently from each other.

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Lin is known to think banana whilst simultaneously Xin thinks kumquat.

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@SergeantLynch

That’s only when they are not thinking Taoism.

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