I dont trust anyone except Gods, this is why atheists fail

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#31 •••
@Debby

Yep I know the gobbledegook.


But as I said, the fruit was a metaphor representing sexuality, therefore not specifically a fruit.


The story was made up by sexually repressed semidesert folk with body issues.

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#32 •••
@SergeantLynch

I think you're a little fixated.I've never heard anyone say the apple represented sex. All the animals would have had to procreate to recreate so that doesn'make any sense.

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#33 •••
@Polytheistwitch
I think you're a little fixated.


The guy talks about sex all the time. He is not "a little fixated".

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#34 •••

Remember Adam said, “It’s the fault of the woman you put here with me. She gave me some fruit from the tree. And I ate it.”

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#35 •••

I am surprised atheists think so much about sex, given the fact that their reproduction rates are lowest in the world.

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#36 •••
@SatanLucy

They use a lot of condoms.

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#37 •••

Sorry, we use.

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#38 •••
@SatanLucy

Which country is completely atheist?


Currently, China, North Korea, and Vietnam, are officially atheist.

Their population are ranked highest in the world.

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#39 •••
@Debby

Yet Christians elected Satan Trump as President.

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#40 •••
@Debby
Currently, China, North Korea, and Vietnam, are officially atheist.
Their population are ranked highest in the world


China has birth rate which is almost as low as that of Japan. And yeah, good example with North Korea too.


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#41 •••
@SatanLucy
My theology is completely about connecting with Gods and making deals with Gods. I do talk with humans too especially online but that is for research purposes and has no any love involved.


Do you love your gods, then? Or is it just transactional?

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#42 •••
@Polytheistwitch

Hmmmm. Where have you been the past few thousand years.


When did thinking humans regard animal sexuality in the same way they regard their own sexuality...Such is the big contradiction.


So, the knowledge of the juicy fruit and the serpent...Come on Poly doesn't take a genius to recognise the metaphor.

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#43 •••
@Wryly
Do you love your gods, then? Or is it just transactional?


I believe that love is conditional. In the same way you wouldnt love someone who just abuses you and hurts you, I wouldnt love a God who just abuses and hurts me. In this sense, love is a trade. Not trade in a sense of "I give you this if you give me that". But in this sense: I will respect you and help you and do as you want, and then if you just hurt me, then there is no more respecting or helping from my side. I think this is what love is in a simple way. You offer first, but withdraw if person is pure evil. Same with Gods. I offered a lot to Gods before asking anything from them. It worked for me a lot, and because of this I think Gods exist and they can be pleased and they do return favors as well.

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#44 •••
@SatanLucy

China and Korea already had a very large population before the spread of religion.

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#45 •••

Genesis 3:7 mentions Adam and Eve using fig leaves to cover their nakedness after consuming the forbidden fruit. This suggests that figs could have played a role in the original sin narrative.

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#46 •••
@SergeantLynch

Well, we're talking about the first man and woman.They wouldn't know anything, but what was in the garden. Again, I personally have never heard anyone say that the apple represented sex.

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#47 •••
@FLRW

Pomegranates get thrown out every now then too.

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#48 •••
@Polytheistwitch

Gnostic interpretation of the story proposes that it was the archons who created Adam and attempted to prevent him from eating the forbidden fruit in order to keep him in a state of ignorance, after the spiritual form of Eve entered the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil while leaving a physical version of herself with Adam once she awakened him. However, the forces of the heavenly realm (Pleroma) sent the serpent as a representative of the divine sphere to reveal to Adam and Eve the evil intentions of their creators. The serpent succeeded in convincing them to eat the fruit and become like gods, capable of distinguishing between good and evil

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#49 •••
@FLRW, @Polytheistwitch

Hmmmm.


Well I never said that the apple represented sex per se...Rather that the juicy fruit and the serpent was a metaphorical representation of sexuality and the original sin.


And I grow figs, and they are most obviously a metaphor for testicles.


Nonetheless, all these juicy fruit we recognise today have been bred or evolved from not so juicy origins, so were unlikely to have been around in an original garden.


Nope like most of the bible, these myths and legends were put together as a very naive creation and existence hypothesis...And have long since been debunked.


Though I'm thinking peach rather than apple...Peaches are sensually pudendal and ripe ones ooze juice.


Nah, I'm not fixated Poly.

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#50 •••

You're applying modern day concepts and your view of sexuality to ancient mythical spiritual texts. Lots of things can represent penises, vaginas, and testicles, it doesn't mean if they're in a story that's what the stories about. Serpents, depending on the culture, represent all kinds of things and never just penises. There's a deeper spiritual meaning to the story than just Adam and Eve had sex. But I don't expect anyone who thinks spirituality and religion are stupid to have any sort of deep thoughts on it. And talking dirty should be reserved for your spouse and not be forced on the rest of us here, trying to have a conversation.

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#51 •••
@Polytheistwitch
And talking dirty should be reserved for your spouse


Do you really think that a guy who constantly talks about sex and perversions online has a spouse? If he does, I feel sorry for her.

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#52 •••
@SatanLucy

Kinda like Trump. Talks about sex all the time and has been married 3 times.

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#53 •••

What's sad is, is there some really super cool mythology around serpents. And basically we're talking about d***.

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#54 •••
@Polytheistwitch

The Bible dispelled all myths about serpents.

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#55 •••
@Debby

The Bible has it's own myths about serpents. It's not special or different then other religions.

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#56 •••
@Polytheistwitch

Genesis 3:14

And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

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