I just realized something super easy about herbs and their magical uses

Are there newts in your area, all the best spells require eye of newt.

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I think it's possible to over season your food. When I make pizza sauce, pretty much all I add is salt, garlic, oregano, and red pepper. I add basil to my finished pizza. Anything beyond that, and it's just over doing it. My pizzas are pretty magical. I think simplicity can be pretty magical in general.

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Hazel stick has protective properties.

Yep, any robust length of any tree, across the back of an intruders head is an effective means of protection.

Though the Police always advise to go for the shins and knees...Head shots too risky.

And when down, a swift one in the testicles for good measure.

Magic.

And all organic matter has properties, some beneficial, some not.

And if you find solace in spells, that's beneficial too.

I can find solace in the Welsh countryside...Which in terms of internal functions and processes amounts to the same thing, but without the need for contrived ritualism.

I dont believe in simplicity, I just cant find some plants in my area. Thats all. I believe in complicated, not simple.

And if you find solace in spells, that's beneficial too.

Its not about finding any "solace", but atheist mind truly wouldnt know.

The human mind is a self contained organic processing unit with currently over 8 billion modifiable variations of programmed data.

So no one can be certain of what another is thinking.

And BK AKA SatanLucy is a unit that modifies regularly.

So my conclusion is that BK AKA Satan Lucy, finds ongoing/temporary solace in their internal computing methodology, and that their highly variable behaviour is compensation for a hormonally driven undertow...And to be honest, I've probably been there and done that.

So my conclusion is that BK AKA Satan Lucy, finds ongoing/temporary solace

Atheists cant even think in form of premises and conclusion.

Well, one could argue that:

A. If the premise is true, then the conclusion must be true

B. If the premise is false, then the conclusion must be false.

C. If the premise is false, then nonetheless, the conclusion is still true to the premise.

D. If the premise is speculative, then the conclusion might be true or false or speculative.

I could probably make up a hundred more versions, because the beauty of words and language is such.

Though in terms of the theism/atheism contention, then D. is perhaps a suitable option.

Though if the premise cannot be substantiated then the exercise is always going to be somewhat futile anyway.

Because hearsay and subsequently modified speculation is what it is, and therefore associated premises and conclusions will be what they are.

For thousands of years man has speculated that a maximal entity or force exists somewhere other than inside their heads...And it may well do so...But unfortunately there is no way of getting out there and finding it.

Therefore your internal creation is either going to afford you solace or nightmares.

Such is words.

A. If the premise is true, then the conclusion must be true

No, there are cases where both premises are true, yet conclusion is false because argument is not logical.

B. If the premise is false, then the conclusion must be false.

No, the goal of argument is to prove conclusion true. However, conclusion can be true even if argument itself is wrong. In formal logic, one can use a false premise and end up with conclusion which is true. Because conclusion itself is a claim which is either true or not true, and this is independent of argument. Argument merely attempts to prove something true. It does not magically make something true. The conclusion, if true, would be true even if no one ever made the argument.

As for proving conclusion false, that is the job of counter-argument. The main goal of counter argument is to prove that either conclusion doesnt follow from premises, either that one of premises is wrong.

True argument (the one which has no counter-argument) is the one where conclusion must logically follow from premises, and all premises are true.

C. If the premise is false, then nonetheless, the conclusion is still true to the premise.

Sure.

D. If the premise is speculative, then the conclusion might be true or false or speculative

Conclusion can only be true or not true. No 3rd option exists. As for being unknown, that is not the state of conclusion but the state of mind. Gods can be true even if no human thinks they are. Gods do not depend on the state of human minds.

Therefore your internal creation is either going to afford you solace or nightmares

False dichotomy. Religion in a true sense isnt there for comfort, especially not for comfort alone. It is there to make person stronger and more powerful, which often even involves discomfort, so it is neither comfort nor nightmare.

I agree. You find shadow work, growth, healing, empowerment, self reflection, all of which can suck while doing it. All it never stops. But you are more comfortable on yoyr skin each time. Like a snake sheading.

The snake was the only thing that comforted Eve in the garden.

A conclusion is whatever it amounts to.

And for sure if it's not true, then it's not true...Correct is a more relevant term.

Though knowledge of such is important, because if the premise is founded on pure speculation, then truth, correctness or incorrectness cannot be known.

And an internal data construct is what it is and solace and/or nightmares are a relative response...Whereas religion is a label given to a particular style of construct.

So "false dichotomy" is largely a philosophical point scoring exercise...Which in this instance is not really applicable...Unless you are simply trying to score points rather than address the issue.

Hey.

I too just realised something super easy about herbs and their uses.

They come in pots from supermarkets and are magic for flavouring all manner of dishes.

Praise be to Basil and Rosemary.

Speaking of herbs and what not it's the first of the month. Blow cinnamon into your doorway for luck and prosperity.

Seems like a good plan. Until you come across a particular spell you really want to do but the herbs aren't local for you, I guess. I'm in the dark about what happens then. Are you SOL if the herbs don't grow near you, or can you adapt with the available ingredients and still get the same results? Does it depend on the grimoire or spellbook or spell rules.

Speaking of herbs and what not it's the first of the month. Blow cinnamon into your doorway for luck and prosperity.

Thank you for that. Hazelnuts are said to bring good luck too, tho I am not sure if it works if they are bought from store. Every plant I use for effect comes from my own land, because I dont trust stores that much when it comes to this. I even avoid using salt often in my rituals. I dont make salt circles, other than as completely separate ritual of its own, so it doesnt mix with my other rituals.

Are you SOL if the herbs don't grow near you, or can you adapt with the available ingredients and still get the same results? 

Spells are divided into categories, but 3 basic ones are: wealth, love, protection.

And you can find thousands of spells and symbols for these 3. As for herbs, when it comes to protection, stinging nettle, dandelion leaves and roots, and hazel tree are considered good, and these are almost everywhere on Earth. When it comes to love, rose is a common plant for that which I assume can be found in most of the world. As for wealth, cinnamon and clover are common. I dont know where clover doesnt grow.

Also, you can make your own spells. You dont have to rely on some specific book, and I dont think there even is a universal book in witchcraft. There are many books, with many different spells. There are also apps for phone which contain simple spells which I think are just as good.

Also, herbs are probably most difficult spells for beginners, but they are not too difficult. It doesnt take huge knowledge to figure it out, unless person only chooses most difficult spells with herbs which take a lot of time to find. Well, you can order herbs online, but I am not sure how good is that.

This is kinda fascinating. If you can make your own spells, where do you believe the power comes from? The spells, the herbs, the ritual, you, the gods?

You can almost always find a spell where you can substitute local herbs from ones that are more exotic or not in your area. The best spells are the ones you do yourself because they're full of your own intent. Researching ingredients for a spell is half the fun and doing one.

If you can make your own spells, where do you believe the power comes from?

The power comes from offering which is given to or used to attract Gods or spirits. For example, burning food in a fire, or placing plants on altar, or just from effort being made to pray a lot. Offering must be made, of course. You are truly trading with Gods, and while I think prayer is good, prayer alone is not enough, because prayer is just communication with Gods. If you dont offer anything to Gods, dont expect much from Gods. Gods appreciate things which are of value. Chocolate is expensive, and burning chocolate in a fire may seem too much, but I think it is one of best ways to honor the Gods. It is a trade in a way that you offer first, something like "I give you this, so please give me that". Herbs work in similar way as offering, and also to attract spirits and Gods. Plus, some plants make such a nice view in the house. I think a bowl of green hazelnuts looks wonderful.

This is not how every person believes spells work. This is one person's interpretation. Witchcraft does not have to have any gods in it. You can do spells without invoking a deity at all.

Hazel is a tree? I thought she was a bottled witch.

You can do spells without invoking a deity at all.

Yes. But you prompt me to peruse my Egyptuan Book of the Dead, a.k.a. Spells for the Coming Forth by Day [the original title Ani, the scribe, who collected the spells together in the first place ion antiquity].

Witchcraft does not have to have any gods in it. You can do spells without invoking a deity at all.

True, you can, but if you rely not on spirits or Gods, then it becomes a bit confusing as to what makes spells work. The other explanations could be that focusing intention can affect external world and yourself. However, if you dont believe in Gods or spirits, then plenty of spells suddenly make no sense. It basically only reduces number of spells you can use. Sure, you can be atheist and still do spells, but a great number of spells I run into require belief in spirit or God. For example, you cant reasonably give offerings to Venus if you dont believe in her. Same for Satan, for demons, for spirits, for ancestor worship...ect. You also cant summon spirit guardians if you dont believe in those. So atheist magic, while possible, is terribly limited and you will have to skip a lot of spells as atheist.

Energy makes spells work. Whether it's energy from the herbs, crystals, spices, the elements you're calling on or a deity. Atheist witches often believe in spirit, and they call on their ancestors or nature spirits to help with a spell. I can't think of any spell that I would want to do.That's restricted, because i'm not calling on a deity. Witchcraft is a practice. It doesn't have to involve anything other than you. Everything you use in a spell helps to focus it but it's not necessary. With all that said everyone can do what they want in the way of spell work. I just don't want people assuming the way you're describing it is how everyone does it because the way you talk about spell work is unique compared to most of the conversations I have about it.