Formula for Salvation pt 1 knocking

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#1 β€’β€’β€’

Many people have tried to explain, wether by zeal, emotion or multitudes of verses, Why is christianity the best way, or how can a person be saved by a book over 1800 years old.

So lets lay a foundation and precepts that perhaps can help someone understand the logic and the precepts of the bible.


First of all, there must be faith that there is a God, and he rewards those that seek him.

If you dont believe he will reward those that seek him, why believe in him? Surely any other god can be sought and give nothing of value.


What rewards does he give that we should seek after the God of abraham, issac and jacob?

The Lord, according to his word, offers not only eternal life to all those who serve him and make him their God, he also brings gifts and relationship to those who desire him.


Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.


John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


What kind of a reward is it to have a spirit or to have Jesus to abide in you?

Consider being in your house or residence, when someone comes to the door you know they want something from you. depending on who it is, you may or may not answer the door, or you may tell them to leave.

If its a person that cares about you and you enjoy your time with them, it is more likely you will let them in.

The intention of whoever knocks on the door is known in 3 ways.

1: who it is.

2: what they say.

3: what they bring/dont bring.


So when Jesus wishes to abide with you, you have to see who he is and what he brings, then you have to listen to his words to understand why he comes.


So why does jesus come?

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.


Immediately the character or words of Jesus is opposite of a thief, he comes to bring life to you, and if you already have life, then he promises to give more abundant life.


The heck is life? Is it breathing? If so, is jesus saying he will offer more breath?


John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


So he supposes himself to be the life. If he is indeed life, then why does he have to ask to come into your life?


2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Psalms 8:4-6 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.


God is a free spirit, and he gave man dominion over all the works of God. Including his own body

So he cannot enter in unless you allow him, that is why he knocks at the door of your mind, your heart, your awareness.



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#2 β€’β€’β€’
@melcharaz

You are misquoting Jesus when you give the reason for his mission.

β€œSo why does jesus come? 

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.”


in Jesus’s own words why he was sent by God.

Matthew 15:24 β€œHe answered, β€œI was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”


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@Debby

Both are the words of Jesus. They are both assumed true.


See also

1 john 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

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@melcharaz

The devil succeeded in getting Jesus crucified and sent him packing to heaven so that he could remain ruler of the world.

As 1 John 3:8 reminds us, "He who commits sin is of the devil." For this reason the New Testament describes Satan variously as "the ruler of this world" (Jn 12:31), "the god of this world" (2 Cor 4:4), and "the prince of the power of the air" (Eph 2:2).


Caiaphas, the chief priest whom the devil was using, did not relent in his evil plan to get Jesus crucified. After he succeeded in getting Jesus crucified, he buried him in a unmarked tomb.

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@Debby

1 corinthians 2:7-8

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:


8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.


You assert too much.

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#6 β€’β€’β€’

You dont understand dominion or authority of satan. He didnt gain it at calvary, he gained it at eden.

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#7 β€’β€’β€’
@Debby

And frankly, you are spamming my topic with your assertions and nonsensical contents. Im gonna ask you to stop.


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#8 β€’β€’β€’

The statement is a theological interpretation, aligning with verses like 

1 John 3:8, which states Jesus came "to destroy the works of the devil". This is understood not as an immediate, violent destruction of Satan himself, but as dismantling his power by saving humanity from sin through his death and resurrection. The "works of the devil" are seen as his influence, which includes tempting people to sin. 

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