I cannot be satisfied

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#61 •••
@Debby

Your reading comprehension skills are non existent.

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#62 •••
@sadolite

Read your profile. It’s your self admission.

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#63 •••
@Debby

I stand by my statement. You have 0 reading comprehension skills. Not one word of what you responded to is even remotely in my profile.

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#64 •••
@sadolite

You edited your profile. But I had copied and pasted what you wrote before you deleted it.


you wrote,”You are 62 years old and haven’t figured out life yet. You even declared, “Maybe the universe was created maybe it wasn't, no one knows. ” Let us know when you are convinced you exist.”

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#65 •••
@Debby

You are a lying sack of shit and everyone knows it. You are intellectually weak and lame. Do you really think everyone cant see you copy and pasted from a previous post I made in this thread and altered what I really said. Are you really that fucking stupid and lame.

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#66 •••
@sadolite

Learn to read my post.


”You edited your profile. But I had copied and pasted what you wrote before you deleted it.


you wrote,”You are 62 years old and haven’t figured out life yet. You even declared, “Maybe the universe was created maybe it wasn't, no one knows. ” Let us know when you are convinced you exist.”


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#67 •••
@Debby

You are a lying sack of fucking shit. Hell has a special place for scum sucking maggots like you.


The post you copy and pasted from then altered >>>


"I don't need religion to know who I am or what I want out of life. I am 62 years old, if I haven't figured out life yet I would be a pretty fucken lame individual. With that said I don't dismiss anything having to do with the creation of the universe and everything in it. Religion like science are the same in this regard, the words of man. Maybe the universe was created maybe it wasn't, no one knows. I see 0 evidence of control of outcome."

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#68 •••
@sadolite

Thank you for reposting what you deleted.

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#69 •••
@Debby

You are truly pathetic.

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#70 •••
@Debby
Jesus and his disciples depended on the generosity and support of others......


That's right. He mooched off all the women in his movement although he did had many rich friend in high places... and low ones.

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#71 •••
@Stephen

Jesus did more good than bad.

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#72 •••
@Debby
Jesus did more good than bad.


According to the bible, for the best part, he did no wrong. But according to Roman law he did much that was wrong and the most of the hierarchy appear to have agreed.



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#73 •••
@Stephen

The Romans eventually embraced Christianity, but it was a gradual process: Emperor Constantine legalized it with the Edict of Milan in 313 AD, granting tolerance, but it was Emperor Theodosius I who made Nicene Christianity the official state religionof the Roman Empire in 380 AD with the Edict of Thessalonica, banning other pagan practices. This shift from persecution to state religion happened over nearly three centuries, transforming Christianity from a sect to the dominant faith, aided by Paul's missionary work and the Empire's infrastructure. 

Key Milestones:

  1. Early Persecution: Christians faced sporadic persecution, notably under Emperor Nero.
  2. Constantine's Legalization (313 AD): After a vision, Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, ending persecution and granting Christianity legal status, but not making it the state religion.
  3. Rise in Popularity: Christianity grew significantly, appealing to various social classes, especially the poor, and adopting Roman organizational structures.
  4. Theodosius' Edict (380 AD): The Edict of Thessalonica declared Nicene Christianity the sole legitimate religion, making it the official state faith and suppressing paganism. 

Impact:

  1. This move solidified Christianity's power, leading to the closure of pagan temples and the rise of bishops as influential figures.
  2. The Church absorbed some Roman cultural elements, integrating them into Christian practices, notes Rhodes College and Wikipedia. 


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#74 •••
@Debby
The Romans eventually embraced Christianity, but it was a gradual process: Emperor Constantine 


And with good reason. In short: he was about to be defeated at the battle of Milvian Bridge being outnumbered he needed a "miracle". Lo and behold he conveniently seen a sign (that no one else witnessed). Well I never!!! it said, ("In hoc signo vinces" _ "In this sign, you shall conquer"). Well I never!!! Again!!!

Which persuaded thousands of Christians to join his forces and defeat his brother-in -law. Max. Well played Connie lad, I say. I don't know, the superstition of the time really was amazing .


Oh BTW, it is said that Constantine didn't convert until he was on his death bed.


Of course none of this has anything to do with why Rome put Jesus to death.

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#75 •••
@Stephen


The Romans killed Jesus primarily for political reasons, specifically for sedition or treason, as his claims of being the "King of the Jews" were seen as a direct challenge to Roman authority and Emperor Caesar. Roman Governor Pontius Pilate executed him by crucifixion—a common Roman punishment for rebels and insurrectionists—after Jewish religious leaders, fearing Jesus's growing influence and disruptive Temple actions, handed him over, presenting him as a political threat Rome couldn't ignore.  


Key Reasons for His Execution:

  1. Political Threat: 
  2. Jesus preached about a "Kingdom of God," which Romans interpreted as a literal, earthly kingdom challenging Caesar's rule, making him a potential instigator of rebellion in a volatile province. 

  3. Temple Disturbance: 
  4. His disruption of the money-changers and merchants in the Jerusalem Temple was seen as an attack on the established religious and economic order, which was deeply tied to Roman power. 

  5. Sedition/Insurrection: 
  6. The Roman state viewed Jesus as a subversive figure who could incite unrest, and crucifixion was reserved for those threatening public order and Roman power. 

  7. Jewish Leadership's Role: 
  8. While the Romans carried out the execution, Jewish religious leaders (like the Sadducees and priests) brought Jesus to Pilate, framing him as a political threat to get Roman authorities to act, as they lacked the power to execute him themselves under Roman rule. 

In essence, Rome executed Jesus not for blasphemy (which they didn't care about) but because his message and actions were perceived as a dangerous political challenge to their imperial control in Judea.


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#76 •••
The Romans killed Jesus primarily for political reasons, specifically for sedition or treason.


Yes I know. See>>>#72 above



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#77 •••
@Stephen


Jesus didn't break Roman civil laws during his life, but was executed for a perceived Roman crime (sedition/treason) fabricated by Jewish leaders who accused him of claiming to be "King of the Jews," a threat to Caesar, though Pilate found no guilt in him, essentially executing him as a political nuisance for maintaining order. He was primarily subject to local Judean law, but the Roman authorities held ultimate power for capital crimes like sedition. 

The Roman Charges (Sedition/Treason)

  1. Claiming Kingship: The core accusation brought to Pilate was that Jesus claimed to be "King of the Jews," which Roman law interpreted as maiestas(treason/slander against the emperor).
  2. Pilate's View: Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor, declared Jesus innocent of these charges, finding "no fault in him," but ultimately crucified him to appease the Jewish crowd and maintain peace, according to Lifeway Research. 

Jewish Law & Jesus' Actions

  1. Religious Law Violations: Jesus' actions, such as healing lepers or cleansing the Temple, were seen by some religious leaders as breaking Jewish religious laws, but these weren't Roman laws.
  2. Blasphemy: The Jewish council (Sanhedrin) found him guilty of blasphemy under their own religious law, not Roman law. 

Key Distinction

  1. Jesus was sentenced to death by Roman authorities, but the initial accusations (sedition) were politically motivated fabrications by Jewish leaders to get the Romans to act, notes Forbes. He never claimed to be a king in the political sense, but his followers saw him as King. 


according to the Gospel accounts, Pontius Pilate repeatedly stated he found no fault or basis for a charge against Jesus, even offering to release him after flogging him as a compromise, but ultimately succumbed to pressure from the Jewish leaders and the crowd, handing Jesus over for crucifixion. Pilate famously washed his hands, declaring himself innocent of Jesus's blood, but still authorized the execution due to the political pressure to avoid unrest. 

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