Christians should consider as a heresy the story of Noah as a worldwide flood

I believe the story of Noah if its reported as a worldwide flood is a heresy

What?

Every culture in every corner of the world, even cultures which never met each other such as Native Americans and Chinese, have ancient story of a great flood which covered all known land. they disagree on details and time, which is understandable because people have tendency to add their version of story. However, they all agree on two things: there was a flood, and it covered all known land.

So just about every culture made up same story? Okay, stick to that argument.

Here are the **major scientific absurdities** that make a *literal, global* flood as described in a certain reading of the Noah story scientifically impossible. These aren’t “anti-Bible” claims—most Christian scholars (including Orthodox, Catholic, and many Protestants) read the story as **theological myth, ancient historiography, or regional flood memory**, not literal geology.

Below are the key contradictions with physics, geology, biology, and anthropology:

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# **1. Not Enough Water Exists on Earth**

To cover **all mountains**, including something like Mt. Everest, you’d need water **3x more** than currently exists in all oceans, ice caps, rivers, groundwater, and atmosphere combined.

Even if every ice cap melted and every cloud rained out, Earth would still fall **miles short**.

This alone makes a literal global deluge physically impossible.

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# **2. No Mechanism to Remove the Water Afterwards**

If the entire Earth were submerged, where would the water *go* afterward?

There is no geological mechanism that could:

* make trillions of cubic kilometers of water **vanish**,

* or be “absorbed” into the ground (the crust would need to expand).

Again, physically impossible.

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# **3. Geological Record Shows No Global Flood**

Earth's geology is a layered timeline:

* volcanic deposits

* deserts

* coral reefs

* fossilized forests

* deep ocean sediments

These layers show **continual, undisturbed history** for millions of years.

A global flood would produce:

* one chaotic worldwide sediment layer,

* matching debris everywhere,

…but this layer does **not exist**.

Instead, the rocks show:

* millions of years of life on land and sea,

* no simultaneous extinction event from complete drowning,

* coral reefs that have grown uninterrupted for >100,000 years.

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# **4. Marine and Freshwater Life Would Die**

Mixing the world’s oceans and rivers into one watery soup would:

* kill freshwater fish via salinity changes,

* kill saltwater fish via dilution,

* kill most amphibians due to chemistry and pH shifts.

99% of aquatic life would die.

But the fossil record shows no such mass extinction.

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# **5. Ark Biology Is Impossible**

A literal reading implies:

### **Every terrestrial species descended from a few thousand ark animals in 4,000 years.**

This requires:

* impossible mutation rates,

* impossible migration speeds (kangaroos hopping across oceans),

* immediate formation of huge ecosystems.

Genetic diversity alone disproves this. Species have genetic lineages far older than a few thousand years.

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# **6. Human Cultures Show No Global Break or Reset**

If all humans died except Noah’s family:

* All languages would derive from a single 4,000-year-old root.

* All civilizations would show a sudden restart after a missing generation.

But we see:

* continuous Egyptian, Sumerian, Chinese, and Indus Valley records,

* no world-wide cultural break,

* uninterrupted settlement layers.

Egypt, for example, has a continuous record from 3100 BCE onward—no flood layer, no pause.

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# **7. The Ark Could Not Physically House the Required Animals**

If taken literally:

* Millions of species must fit into a ship ~450 ft long.

* Food and water for one year must be stored.

* Waste must be removed.

* Carnivores must be fed without eating the herbivores.

The logistics are physically impossible on every level—zoological, architectural, ecological, and metabolic.

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# **8. Heat Problem From Volcanoes & the “Fountains of the Deep”**

Some literalist models propose massive underwater volcanism to supply water.

The heat released from that level of geologic activity would:

* boil the oceans,

* melt the ark,

* sterilize Earth.

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# **9. Stratified Fossils Cannot Form in a Flood**

Young-Earth flood geology claims that sediment layers were deposited in one year.

But in reality:

* fine laminations require static, still water conditions,

* coral reefs grow in place,

* volcanic ash layers settle over years,

* dinosaur trackways and nests require long periods on dry land.

One giant flood cannot create orderly layers that require:

* different environments,

* different ecosystems,

* different climatic conditions.

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# **10. Salt Deposits, Coal Beds, and Coral Reefs Contradict a Recent Flood**

Evaporite deposits (like massive salt layers) require:

* long-term evaporation in shallow seas—thousands of years.

Coal beds require:

* forests growing, dying, and compacting—not drowning in a single event.

Coral reefs:

* build slowly over tens of thousands of years and cannot grow under turbulent floodwater.

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# **The Bottom Line**

A **literal, global** flood contradicts:

* physics

* hydrology

* geology

* biology

* genetics

* paleontology

* anthropology

* linguistics

* archaeology

This is why nearly all mainstream Christian scholars read the narrative as:

* **theological truth**,

* **mythic history**,

* **ancient Near Eastern flood-story genre**,

* **regional event transformed into a moral narrative**,

—not a literal scientific description.

I believe in miracles.

But i believe when they happen there's scientific evidence for them.

A contradiction.

But i believe when they happen there's scientific evidence for them.

I believe the story of Noah if its reported as a worldwide flood is a heresy even though im a christian because there's no scientific evidence for it and plenty that contradict it.

Another contradiction

Not Enough Water Exists on Earth**

God added the water, silly.

**2. No Mechanism to Remove the Water Afterwards**

God removed the water, silly.

*3. Geological Record Shows No Global Flood**

God removed the record, silly.

Do you need me to go on, or do you get the point that an all-powerful God is indeed all-powerful and isnt limited to what you think he couldnt do.

Scientific consensus and geological evidence show 

no proof for a global Noah's Flood, citing insufficient water, lack of a global geological layer, fossil inconsistencies (like marine fossils high on mountains or terrestrial plants surviving), impossibility for freshwater/saltwater species to mix, and the existence of ancient civilizations continuing unaffected; instead, many scientists link the myth to localized mega-floods, such as the Black Sea inundation, or other ancient flood narratives. 

Key Scientific & Geological Reasons Against a Global Flood:

1. Water Volume: There simply isn't enough water on Earth (in atmosphere, ice, or underground) to cover the highest mountains globally as described, notes Live Science and The University of Arizona.
2. Geological Layers: The rock record shows distinct, slow-deposited layers (like chalk with coccolithfossils needing sunlight) that contradict a single, rapid, worldwide flood event, according to California State University, Northridge and Answers in Genesis.
3. Fossil Record: Marine fossils are found high on continents, but terrestrial plants and animals (like dinosaurs) have fossil evidence (nests, slow-formed dunes) inconsistent with fleeing a massive flood, says California State University, Northridge and National Center for Science Education.
4. Biological Inconsistencies: A global flood would kill all freshwater fish due to salinity changes and mix saltwater and freshwater species impossibly, notes Reddit users.
5. Lack of Archaeological Evidence: No evidence exists of a global flood wiping out all human civilizations from the period, say Quora users. 

Alternative Explanations:

1. Local Floods: Stories may stem from real, devastating local floods, like the massive inundation of the Black Sea around 7,500 years ago, suggests Biblical Archaeology Society.
2. Mythological Origins: The narrative shares similarities with older Mesopotamian flood myths, like the Epic of Gilgamesh, says Quora users and Reddit users. 

Creationist Arguments:

1. Some creationists argue for "Flood Geology," suggesting layers formed rapidly, but this is considered pseudoscientific by mainstream science, notes Wikipedia and Answers in Genesis. 

Truth is the only thing that matters to me. You're off in lala land and care only about religion and crack pot religious ideas. To do what you are suggesting would require miracles but the only known miracles that I know of leave scientific evidence. Such as what the Catholic Church teaches with the congregation of the causes of the saints.

To do what you are suggesting would require miracles but the only known miracles that I know of leave scientific evidence.

God removed the evidence of God's work, silly. Or do you think God does what you think God should do?

There is scientific evidence that a worldwide flood came about, and the most compelling explanation for that is that a meteor hit the earth and caused the great flood. Then, it's very unlikely that a continous heavy rain triggered the flood, so the bible is wrong about it, no surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQ2sKQh2JM

The most interesting thing about it is that this flood buried previous civilizations, the most known the Atlantis which Plato referred to in his writings.

I can't help saying that this meteor was planned by the fkn aliens as a planetary reset. The aliens are doing an experiment in the Earth and when it doesn't get on as they expected, they reset the planet sending a meteor that wipes out everything. If you check the predictions of Edgar Cayce, there is supposed to be a second flood for our times, but according to the fkn aliens, they changed their mind and there won't be a planetary reset. I mean, there will be a reset, but only of the system (religious, politic, economy, education, health, etc).

The flood in Genesis didn't save the Jews specifically, but it saved Noah, his family (who are the ancestors of all humanity, including the Hebrews), and all animal life from a corrupt world, allowing for a fresh start for humanity

. Jewish tradition sees the flood as a necessary cleansing of overwhelming wickedness, preserving civilization itself through Noah's righteousness, with the ark acting as a vessel for new beginnings, establishing a covenant with God for all people. 

did you read the post i pasted about how a world wide flood was clearly a myth? your claim about it being true or even maybe true is ridiculous. that's pseudo science. and i'm saying that as someone who believes in God and the supernatural.

ive debated these claims in the past on this site. you seem pretty ignorant and or stupid when it comes to christianity and God. i encourage you to go through my debate thread in my profile so you can get educated then we can debate anything in want from those threads.

Catastrophic flood events are commonplace.

Whereas little old Noah building and supplying a comprehensive global floating zoo, is an exaggerated myth.

Who collected all the marsupials together?

Goats in a boat, would make for a better title.

 "I believe the story of Noah if its reported as a worldwide flood is a heresy ....." #1

The flood story is predated by the Sumerian version by thousands of years and well before the bible (OT) was even thought about. As are many of the other biblical stories. The story of babies in reed baskets is another example.

Of course there are massive exaggerations concerning the size of the flood and the animals 2 by 2 BS.

But as someone as mentioned there are many civilisations that that talk of a flood in their historical ancient pasts.

Yes, and prior to that the Bromsgrovian version, where 2 cows got stuck in a muddy ditch.

When a meteor hits the Earth, the whole planet slightly spins, provoking the change of the poles. This sudden shake also causes a great tsunami covering most of the lands in the planet (except the highlands) for a time, but when the waters return to their place, some lands end up covered while other lands that were covered get exposed, reconfiguring the world map.

This is why some civilitizations got lost, they were covered by the water. Other civilizations were covered by the ice after being placed in the poles, that's why some people think there is a civilization under the ice of the Antartic.

So, there is no water addition or substraction, the water just moved, exposing some lands and covering others.

Whether Noah's worldwide flood is heresy is a matter of intense theological debate

, with some Christians viewing the global flood as essential to biblical truth, while many conservative scholars and denominations (like the Catholic Church) accept regional flood interpretations or view it as a story conveying spiritual truths rather than literal history, thus avoiding heresy charges for non-global views. The debate centers on reconciling Genesis accounts with science and interpreting ancient language, with views ranging from a literal global event (often seen as required for biblical inerrancy) to a localized flood in Mesopotamia, or a miraculous, universal-in-impact event. 

I don't give a fk if Noah's flood is hearsay, I'm refering to the deluge as a general event not necessarily related to a specific culture.

Meanwhile, I think the best explanation for a worldwide flood is the arrival of a meteor that shakes the planet and causes a massive destruction all around the world.

If anyone here wants to expand their knowledge about it, there you have the predictions of Edcar Cayce, or if you know Spanish, you also have the predictions of Benjamin Solari Parravicini.

Even there, Good would be behind sending the meteor that shakes the planet and causes a massive destruction all around the world.