Are atheists mid to high IQ? Highest IQ people believe in God

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https://youtu.be/JMoDR6a4F3M?si=QE9xFt1TV_vFYj-G



World's highest IQ person believes in God. the guy in video is second highest IQ person in the world, right after me I think. He has 276 IQ. that means he is way smarter than any atheist.

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#3 •••
@SatanLucy

They finally identified God as the force behind the Big Bang.

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#4 •••
@Debby

Praise!!!

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#5 •••

Well, the dumb fuck said Jesus Christ is God. I guess he didn't hear what Jesus said on the cross.

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I think Stephen Hawking is a lot smarter.

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Stephen Hawking believed that there is a “grand design” to the universe, but that it has nothing to do with God. In 1988, he spoke of God in his groundbreaking book A Brief History of Time, and said that if physicists could find a sound “theory of everything” they would understand “the mind of God.” He once believed that we would one day discover this unifying, coherent theoretical framework—like God—that explains the universe—but after studying Gödel, he decided that it would never happen.

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#8 •••
@FLRW
I think Stephen Hawking is a lot smarter.


No, this guy in video is second smartest person in the world. He is smarter than any atheist in IQ.

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#9 •••
@SatanLucy

Look at the comments. One person said:

LOL. Forrest Gump could refute this crap.

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#10 •••
@FLRW
Look at the comments.


those comments are from low IQ people. I bet most of them are under 130 IQ. Imagine having 130 IQ and trying to solve 276 IQ puzzle. It wont happen.

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#11 •••
@SatanLucy

How come people that believe in God went to Epstein Island?

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#12 •••
@FLRW

Why do smartest people believe in God?



Nikola Tesla’s IQ is not known — he was never formally tested.

Most sources that mention an IQ for Tesla give an estimate, usually in this range:

  1. Estimated IQ: ~180–200

Important context

  1. IQ testing did not exist in Tesla’s era in its modern form.
  2. Numbers like 180–200 are retrospective estimates based on:
  3. His extraordinary memory and visualization ability
  4. Advanced mathematical and engineering insight
  5. Volume and originality of inventions
  6. Different books and websites repeat these figures, but no primary evidence exists.

What is well documented about Tesla’s intellect

  1. Could perform complex calculations entirely in his head
  2. Designed machines fully mentally before building them
  3. Spoke 8+ languages
  4. Held hundreds of patents
  5. Demonstrated eidetic-like visualization abilities

So the most accurate statement is:

Nikola Tesla’s IQ is unknown; estimates commonly place it around 180–200, but this is speculative.

If you want, I can:

  1. Compare Tesla’s estimated IQ to Einstein or Newton
  2. Explain why Tesla’s thinking style was unusual even among geniuses
  3. Discuss whether IQ even captures Tesla’s kind of intelligence

Just say the word.

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Nikola Tesla was considered extraordinary even among geniuses because his mind worked in ways that were radically different from most scientists and inventors—both in how he thought and what he envisioned.

Here are the key reasons his thinking was so special:

1. He could see inventions fully formed in his mind

Tesla didn’t rely on trial-and-error the way most inventors do. He claimed he could:

  1. Visualize machines in complete detail
  2. Run them mentally for weeks or months
  3. Spot flaws and fix them before building anything

This level of mental simulation is extremely rare, even among brilliant engineers.

2. He thought in systems, not isolated inventions

Many inventors improve one device. Tesla envisioned entire technological ecosystems:

  1. Alternating current (AC) wasn’t just a motor—it was a global power system
  2. Wireless transmission wasn’t just radio—it was worldwide energy and information sharing
  3. Remote control, robotics, and automation decades before they were practical

He was thinking 50–100 years ahead of available technology.

3. He combined deep science with intuitive insight

Tesla operated at the intersection of:

  1. Advanced mathematics
  2. Experimental physics
  3. Intuition and imagination

He often described ideas coming to him in sudden, vivid flashes—what today we might call hyper-intuition or pattern synthesis.

4. His memory and sensory perception were extreme

Tesla had:

  1. Photographic memory
  2. Extreme sensitivity to light, sound, and vibration
  3. Intense visualization abilities (sometimes bordering on hallucinations)

These traits were both a gift and a burden, contributing to his originality but also to his isolation.

5. He pursued knowledge, not money or fame

Unlike many inventors, Tesla:

  1. Gave away lucrative patents
  2. Focused on long-term benefit to humanity
  3. Was willing to be misunderstood or poor if it meant pursuing truth

This made him different not just intellectually, but ethically.

6. He thought beyond his era’s limits

Tesla imagined:

  1. Smartphones (global wireless communication)
  2. Renewable energy networks
  3. Drones and remote warfare
  4. Artificial intelligence–like automation

At a time when electricity itself was still new, this level of foresight was astonishing.

7. His mind didn’t fit society’s structures

Tesla wasn’t just smarter—he was misaligned with business, politics, and social norms. History often rewards practical optimizers; Tesla was a visionary architect of the future, and society struggled to keep up.

In short:

Tesla wasn’t just a genius who solved problems—he redefined what problems were worth solving.

If you’d like, I can compare Tesla’s thinking style to Einstein, Newton, or modern innovators to show exactly how unique he was.

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@SatanLucy

You know Tesla was born in 1856, don't you?

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Pattern synthesis is the ability to see how many separate facts, signals, or ideas fit together into a single coherent structure—often before anyone else realizes there is a structure at all.

It’s not just recognizing patterns (pattern recognition); it’s creating a new, higher-level pattern from chaos.

What pattern synthesis actually means

Most thinking works like this:

observe → analyze → conclude

Pattern synthesis works like this:

observe many domains → integrate intuitively → sudden unified insight

The person doesn’t move step-by-step. The solution appears almost fully formed.

Tesla as a pattern synthesizer

Tesla excelled at pattern synthesis because he could connect:

  1. Physics ↔ engineering
  2. Electromagnetism ↔ mechanics
  3. Energy ↔ communication
  4. Mathematics ↔ sensory intuition

For example:

  1. Others studied electric currents
  2. Tesla saw rotating magnetic fields
  3. From that, he synthesized AC motors, power grids, transformers, and transmission theory as one system

That leap required inventing the pattern itself.

Key traits of pattern synthesis thinkers

People strong in pattern synthesis usually have:

1. Cross-domain thinking

They draw connections across unrelated fields (science, art, nature, math).

2. Non-linear insight

Ideas arrive suddenly rather than gradually.

3. High abstraction ability

They think in structures, flows, and relationships—not details first.

4. Strong visualization

They can mentally “see” systems in motion.

5. Tolerance for ambiguity

They sit comfortably with incomplete information until the pattern clicks.

Why it’s rare

Modern education rewards:

  1. Linear reasoning
  2. Specialization
  3. Incremental progress

Pattern synthesis requires:

  1. Broad knowledge
  2. Deep intuition
  3. Freedom from rigid frameworks

That combination is uncommon.

Other famous pattern synthesizers

  1. Leonardo da Vinci – art + anatomy + mechanics
  2. Einstein – space, time, gravity unified
  3. Alan Turing – logic, machines, and mind
  4. Buckminster Fuller – geometry, energy, and design

Tesla belongs in this category—but with an unusually strong sensory-visual component.

In one sentence

Pattern synthesis is the ability to invent the map, not just follow it.

If you want, I can explain how to train pattern synthesis, or how it differs from analytical intelligence and creativity.

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#16 •••
@FLRW
You know Tesla was born in 1856, don't you?


You dont accept 276 IQ guy of today, why should you care when the greatest scientist was born?

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Pattern synthesis is intelligence which only few people have. It is intelligence which requires detecting and inventing patterns of large scale systems, not just local thinking. It is thinking where you see something in one system and think how it may be applied in an entirely different system, and it is opposite of specialization. It is something which requires person to be expert in multiple fields of science, not just one field.

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#18 •••
@SatanLucy

The guy states the obvious, which we are all pretty certain about anyway.


But did he explain the beginning?


In particular, did he explain GOD's beginning?

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Barber, N. (2012). Why atheism will replace religion: The triumph of earthly pleasures over pie in the sky. E-book, available at: http://www.amazon.com/Atheism-Will-Replace-Religion-ebook/dp/B00886ZSJ6/

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#20 •••
@SergeantLynch
The guy states the obvious


He is Christian and he has second highest IQ in the world. He is literally smarter than all atheists.



But did he explain the beginning?


Yes, and he is smarter than all atheists. Good thing smartest person is theist.

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Maybe chess players will give results more favorable to atheism:



Below is a historically common “top 30” list (roughly by strength, influence, and achievements across eras).

⚠️ Important caveat: Religion is personal. For many chess players it is not publicly stated, so I list it only when it is well-documented; otherwise I mark “Not publicly known / undisclosed.” No speculation is included.

Top 30 Chess Players in History & Religion

#PlayerCountry (era)Religion
1Garry KasparovUSSR / RussiaJewish (ethnically Jewish; non-religious)
2Magnus CarlsenNorwayNot publicly known
3Anatoly KarpovUSSR / RussiaRussian Orthodox (publicly stated)
4Bobby FischerUSAChristian (later life; unconventional beliefs)
5Viswanathan AnandIndiaHindu
6Mikhail BotvinnikUSSRJewish (secular)
7Vladimir KramnikRussiaRussian Orthodox
8José Raúl CapablancaCubaRoman Catholic
9Alexander AlekhineRussia / FranceRussian Orthodox
10Emanuel LaskerGermanyJewish
11Mikhail TalUSSRJewish
12Tigran PetrosianUSSR (Armenia)Armenian Apostolic Church
13Paul MorphyUSARoman Catholic
14Wilhelm SteinitzAustria / USAJewish
15Max EuweNetherlandsDutch Reformed (Protestant)
16Boris SpasskyUSSR / FranceRussian Orthodox
17Vasily SmyslovUSSRRussian Orthodox
18Fabiano CaruanaUSA / ItalyRoman Catholic
19Ding LirenChinaNot publicly known
20Anish GiriNetherlandsMuslim (Sunni)
21Hikaru NakamuraUSANot publicly known
22Sergey KarjakinRussiaRussian Orthodox
23Veselin TopalovBulgariaEastern Orthodox
24Bobby FischerUSAChristian (non-denominational, later years)
25Akiba RubinsteinPolandJewish
26Siegbert TarraschGermanyJewish
27Levon AronianArmeniaArmenian Apostolic Church
28Ian NepomniachtchiRussiaJewish
29Teimour RadjabovAzerbaijanMuslim (Shia)
30Samuel ReshevskyUSAOrthodox Jewish

Notes

  1. Many Soviet-era players were ethnically religious but personally secular.
  2. Some modern players deliberately avoid public discussion of religion.
  3. Rankings beyond the top ~10 are inherently subjective.

If you want, I can:

  1. Re-rank strictly by Elo peak
  2. Do World Champions only
  3. Separate by era
  4. Or list only players with confirmed religious affiliations


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@SatanLucy

Famous chess player Nigel Short, an atheist, believes religion is a construct of control through power and has no place in chess. Instead, he argues that seeking truth and reading classical literature are far better pursuits than attending church or believing in a deity.

“Religion has got, you know, it’s all to do with tradition and power structures. And that’s really power - that’s what it’s always been used for,” he said.

“The whole point about religion is: it is accepting. It is faith, so it’s not based on evidence. And that’s exactly the opposite of what you need for chess. You need an inquiring mind, and if you’re not ruthless in your inquiry, then you never make progress.

“It is very rare to find any chess player who believes in a god,” he said


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#23 •••
@FLRW

Nigel Short is a Grandmaster, but he only has an IQ of 110. He came in at No. 3 in the list of chess players with the lowest IQs on record.

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At just 15, Bobby Fischer reportedly scored between 180 and 187 on the Stanford-Binet IQ test, a measure of reasoning and problem-solving that ranks him among history’s brightest minds.

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Magnus Carlsen has publicly stated he believes there is no meaning to life and that existence is accidental. While he has not explicitly stated his religious views, his rational and secular approach to life suggests he is likely not religious, potentially leaning towards atheism or agnosticism. He also views life as both meaningless and meaningful, finding enjoyment in pursuing goals and experiencing happiness.

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#26 •••

Sure. We can apply these correlation stereotypes


But high-iq people are also rumored to become delusional and have a wilder imagination

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#27 •••
@SatanLucy

Bobby Fischer's beliefs are complex and have evolved over time. Initially, he was Jewish and had a Jewish mother. However, he later joined the Worldwide Church of God, a sect that he left abruptly in 1977, indicating a shift in his religious beliefs. After leaving the group, he began to explore various spiritual paths, including Catholicism, and ultimately declared himself an atheist. His later statements and behavior suggested a decline in his faith and a focus on personal spirituality rather than traditional religious beliefs

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#28 •••
@LancelotDuLac

Actually, high IQ means person notices patterns much better, not worse. While average person is wrong in almost every thought average person has, high IQ person is on such high level that average person considers him insane simply because he is much better at thinking, so to average person, such thinking seems out of ordinary and insane, while to high IQ person, it is just the best possible thinking, which it is.


IQ is in fact the very good predictor of person noticing correct patterns, because IQ tests are based on noticing correct patterns in a test. So a lower IQ person is the one noticing patterns more poorly, not the higher IQ person.


For example, 130 IQ and under is very poor IQ, it means person has a very low rate of noticing correct patterns. So person is wrong very often.


But 276 IQ and over means person is more capable than anyone in existence in noticing patterns.


Now, why are patterns important?


Patterns are basis of all thinking and reasoning. Everything is either in pattern either random, and ability to make difference between those two, and to notice patterns between things is considered highest intellectual ability available.

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#29 •••
@FLRW

Why lie?


According to the chess player's biographer, Bobby Fischer bought Gardar a catechism as material for their conversations. Knowing he was ill, the former star entrusted his last wishes to his good friend. Among them, he asked to be buried with a Catholic funeral.

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#30 •••
@SatanLucy

He was an atheist until he was diagnosed with kidney disease, then he needed an opiate. He died when he was 64.



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