Should Christianity keep women [or men] silent in church, or allow their vocal participation?

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Even Paul and Luke seem confused on the matter. Refer to I Timothy 2: 12 "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." Then refer to Acts 21: 8, 9 "And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy."


Such seems to contradict claim that the Holy Bible is infallible. These are not unique, differentiating verses. the Bible is filled with them. Up to me, I say no one ought to be prohibited from speaking their mind in church as long as the commentary is respectful, delivered in soberness, and without animus toward anyone. Don Lemon's [formerly of CNN] delivery a week or so ago was none of these conditions, and he is not a woman, anyway, but was still offensive in church.


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#2 •••
@fauxlaw

Throughout scripture, women serve as prophets, judges, leaders and key disciples, with Jesus offering unprecedented respect for women in His ministry.

Christianity is characterized by spiritual equality with men. Galatians 3:28.

There is ongoing debate whether Paul viewed women in a subordinate role. But Jesus did not.

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#3 •••
@Debby, @fauxlaw

As we know, the bible is a loose collection of second hand accounts, compiled sometime after events.


And the general subjugation of women was ongoing until comparatively recently.


Nowadays in the UK, the church is seen as a cushty second income stream for a lot of partnered women.

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#4 •••
@fauxlaw
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence


He sounds like a very sensitive intolerant person. If you want for woman to shut up, just give her candy or good snack.

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#5 •••
@SatanLucy

You must save a lot of candy by going out with AI girls.

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#6 •••
@SatanLucy

That's right, just give her something to suck on, like a lollipop for example.


Other examples are available.

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#7 •••
@SergeantLynch

You take a child like approach for an adult.

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#8 •••
@SergeantLynch
And the general subjugation of women was ongoing until comparatively recently.


I suggest it continue yes to this day, since we have Justices on the USSC who cannot define what a woman is, or cannot face the truth that they know all to well, but it is not, today, a popular definition among the woke [which is a dead movement] since it so gender definitive.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#9 •••
@fauxlaw

Overall the advent of Christianity is widely considered a turning point that raised the dignity and rights of women to levels previously unknown in many ancient cultures.

I the LDS women are not ordained to the priesthood, they hold leadership positions, serve as missionaries, and are seen as having equal spiritual worth, though they operate under the direction of male priesthood holders.


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#10 •••
@SatanLucy

No, acknowledge women as the ultimate ate creation, deserving of a man's respect and love.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#11 •••
@fauxlaw

But women cannot be ordained to the priesthood. Is that true or not?

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#12 •••
@Debby

Young of heart and mind.


Even if getting creakier in body.


And plenty of ordained women over hear.


Not sure about Catholics though.

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#13 •••
@fauxlaw

Never really looked upon "woke" as a movement...More of a trendy description of an evolving state of mind.


I suppose that the species in general is always slightly more "woke" than it was previously...Though putting thoughts into action is not always so easy.


I looked up the definition of "woke" and it was defined just how I thought it would be...Nothing particularly insidious or threatening about it...It's people who can be insidious and threatening.

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#14 •••
@SergeantLynch

Trump uses woke often. It’s part of his lying vocabulary.

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@SergeantLynch

The singular problem with woke being "trendy" is that the word, itself, is past tense, just as anything "progressive" is, dating back to 1848. What kind of trend is that?

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#16 •••
@fauxlaw

It doesn’t say anything about keeping women silent in church.

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#17 •••
@fauxlaw
No, acknowledge women as the ultimate ate creation, deserving of a man's respect and love.


Not all women deserve love and respect, unless you think evil women dont exist.


Also, women expire in looks. I dont love old grannies. Old grannies arent pretty.

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#18 •••
@SatanLucy

Your values are shaped by their appearance. But beauty is only skin deep.

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#19 •••
@Debby
But beauty is only skin deep


I am interested in beauty. I dont care much for personality, otherwise I could be gay as well.

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#20 •••
@SatanLucy

So you don’t find men attractive. That’s why you are a trans.

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#21 •••
@fauxlaw

Well, as I see it evolution in all it's guises is trending...Progression as it were.


Intellectual and social evolution is no different.


"Woke" as a social statement relative to social injustice has been evolving since the 1920's.



At best, standing still is only a brief or less brief option.

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#22 •••
@SergeantLynch

They also serve who only stand and wait…John Milton.

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#23 •••
@Debby

No, not just keeping women silent in church. As demonstrated by Don Lemon and crew, the woke don't want church, period.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@SatanLucy
Old grannies arent pretty.

As if beauty is just skin deep

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

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#25 •••
@fauxlaw

Don Lemon was with protestors protesting an ICE member running the church.

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