How is there systemic racism when race does not exist?

Racial difference is a modern creation.

The statement is largely accurate: the idea of human races is a modern social construct, created and perpetuated by societies, not a biologically real division of people. While there are superficial physical variations between human groups, modern genetics shows these are minor and don't correlate with fundamental biological differences. The concept of race emerged from social, political, and economic forces, particularly during the colonial and Enlightenment periods, to establish hierarchies and justify power imbalances, and it continues to have real-world consequences despite its artificial origins. 

It's really not all that complicated, it's actually very simple.

Yes, race is a social construct, and racism is a social response to that social construct.

That is how there is systemic racism

So a religion to fantasy concepts. Same old rhyme. Might as well call it a systemic religion for all that nonsense reasoning.

All human beings are the same genus and species just like dogs. Dogs all look a lot different because they've had to adapt to their environments. And people are the same. You start thinking one is better than the other.It's probably because you prefer a breed more than another.

So a religion to fantasy concepts. Same old rhyme. Might as well call it a systemic religion for all that nonsense reasoning.

Good point, all we have to do now is go to the KKK meetings and tell those good old boys that according to science, race is just a social construct, racism doesn't really exist, so you can all go home now.

Oh wait, that won't work, I forgot that it's the Klan that said racism doesn't exist in the first place.

Cool, and there's a bunch more points to be made.

Religion is a social construct, so religion doesn't exist.

Politics is a social construct, so politics doesn't exist.

And let's not forget Trump's three favorites:

Legal systems are social constructs, so my felonies don't exist.

Democracy is a social construct, so elections don't exist.

The Constitution is a social construct, so the Constitution doesn't exist.

is KKK some American religion too?

is KKK some American religion too?

Yes

The Welcome sign at Epstein Island says: "Pedophilia is a social construct, so pedophiles don't exist"

While there are superficial physical variations between human groups, modern genetics shows these are minor and don't correlate with fundamental biological differences

Bullshit

People trying to sort human beings according to their skin color is the stupidest thing human beings did. It's like saying red and green apples are different types of fruit. That's bullshit.

In any case, I'd say the correct term shouldn't be racism but "discrimation by skin color", or "colorism". 👌

Even if we were all the same skin color, people would find other physical differences,

Face shapes, hair texture, height.

People 'already do and have discriminated race by more than just color, I'd say.

Nope. "System" implies codified standards. Show me a single, current, legal statute ,or Giov't sept policy, that currently expresses racism. That there are racist individuals within government, yes, I agree, but that is not systemic unless you can demonstrate it by current codified law or policy. That there are historic examples, I already knew there are. I am talking about today. 9/15/2025, since you allege we have a systemic issue today..

Go.

I'm racist against Indians and Nigerians that I don't know.

That's crazy work.

Apparently burning the US flag is legal and burning the Israel flag is illegal. In the US. That should be something I believe.

The issue of US flag-burning is settled Supreme Court precedent from two cases; Texas v. Johnson [1989] and U.S. v. Eichman [1990], both ending in 5-4 decisions that U.S. flag burning is protected freedom of expression as a 1A principle. Both cases were in the Rehnquist Court with the same Justices finding for and against in each case. An interesting side note: no case has ever been tried wherein someone, either the flag burner, or another person, was injured due to flag-burning. That would be an interesting case in view of free speech being curtailed in the case of yelling "fire" in a crowded place due to potential injury of a person.

People 'already do and have discriminated race by more than just color, I'd say.

I heard a theory that says whites envied the blacks because of their physical attributes, including the sexual, if you know what I mean.

It's similar to what happened to the jews. People envied the jew because of their capability of making a lot of money effortlesly.

But you'll see more about envy when a bunch of unhinged women beat the shit out of the beautiful one, like in the Italian movie "Malena".

Anyway, maybe it's not all about envy. Sometimes it seems to be a mechanism of defense like when the yankees discriminated the Japs during and after the WWII. Now it's the Chinese.

I think Groups often Dehumanize the Other.

In fact, anytime Greek culture represented men with a large phallus, they were either monsters, barbarians or rapists. Deeply inhabited by an animalistic nature.

https://paulsolvingproblems.substack.com/p/why-did-greek-statues-have-small

Also the Romans towards outsiders later on,

Gauls, Celts, and 'whatever 'Others they were fighting, I'd imagine.

I'm sure there is often a dualism, claim the Other is some brute animal, only capable of physical work, driven by animal instincts.

But some people also like manly primitive violence at times.

Try to have their cake and eat it too.

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Look at how Brits or Americans might have viewed the Irish during times of conflict.

https://thomasnastcartoons.com/irish-catholic-cartoons/irish-stereotype

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Look at Africa or Europe, doesn't 'need to be another color.

In history, plenty of white on white racism, plenty of black on black racism.

If one sees 10 shades of of a color next to each other, they'll see the differences.

If they see 10 shades of a color next to other colors, they'll not notice the shades of colors as much as the other colors.

Red and light red, one see's different reds.

Red and light red next to blue and light blue, one sees red and blue.

Maybe.

Ethnic Pygmy populations in Central Africa have suffered from racialized discrimination from Bantu peoples.[1] They are frequently ostracized from participation in wider society in the various African countries that they live in and are seen as untouchables.[1] Racially-motivated attacks have occurred on Pygmies including rape and cannibalization.[2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa

Historically, the Shanqella constituted most of the slave labour in the ruling local Afro-Asiatic societies.[20] The Abyssinians (Habesha highlanders) were also noted as having actively hunted the Shanqella during the 19th century.[21] Following the abolition of the slave trade in the 1940s, the freed Shanqella and barya were typically employed as unskilled labour.[20] Racial discrimination against the barya or Shanqella communities in Ethiopia still exists, affecting access to political and social opportunities and resources.[18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa

Nope. "System" implies codified standards. Show me a single, current, legal statute ,or Giov't sept policy, that currently expresses racism. That there are racist individuals within government, yes, I agree, but that is not systemic unless you can demonstrate it by current codified law or policy. That there are historic examples, I already knew there are. I am talking about today. 9/15/2025, since you allege we have a systemic issue today..

Go.

Oh pulease, you are just regurgitating white supremacist ideology, you have no intention of looking at facts, you are just trolling for other MAGA idiots, and you are just going to deny deny deny anyway, but what the hell, I'll let AI tell you what everybody knows.

Is there systemic racism in the us?

Yes, numerous reports and data show the existence of systemic racism in the U.S., which is embedded in institutions and policies that lead to racial disparities in areas like housing, healthcare, the justice system, and education, despite some progress over time. The UN Human Rights Office confirmed that systemic racism continues through human rights violations like racial profiling and police killings. Studies and data from various sources document racial bias in mortgage approvals, home equity, wages, and the administration of justice. 

How Systemic Racism Manifests in U.S. Society:

Housing and Wealth: Data shows Black couples are significantly more likely to be denied a mortgage or home improvement loan than white couples, leading to a large wealth disparity. 

Justice System: Evidence indicates racial bias in the justice system, including higher rates of police stops, harsher sentencing for people of color, and racial disparities in incarceration. 

Healthcare: Racial and ethnic minority communities often rely on under-resourced, lower-quality safety-net healthcare providers, leading to inequities in access and quality of care. 

Education: Systemic racism impacts access to quality education, with disparities in school funding and educational outcomes for communities of color. 

Employment: A significant wage gap persists, with Black workers earning substantially less than white workers annually. 

Technology: Biased technology, such as facial recognition software that misidentifies people of color at higher rates, can exacerbate existing systemic racism. 

Historical Roots and Ongoing Impacts:

1. Systemic racism has historical roots in slavery, legalized apartheid, and discriminatory public policies designed to exclude and suppress communities of color. 

1. These historical injustices continue to shape American policymaking and influence the concentration of power and resources in society. 

1. The consequences of this structural racism create intergenerational disadvantages, trapping Black and other communities of color in cycles of poverty. 

Evidence and Authority:

1. The UN Human Rights Office has reported that systemic racism pervades the U.S. justice system. 

1. Academic literature and research consistently demonstrate the existence of racial discrimination and bias within U.S. institutions. 

1. Reports from organizations like McKinsey & Co. and data from sources like the U.S. Census Bureau provide further evidence of these racial disparities. 

Your turn, give us the Pavlovian white supremacist response now.

Go.

Nope. "System" implies codified standards. Show me a single, current, legal statute ,or Giov't sept policy, that currently expresses racism. That there are racist individuals within government, yes, I agree, but that is not systemic unless you can demonstrate it by current codified law or policy. That there are historic examples, I already knew there are. I am talking about today. 9/15/2025, since you allege we have a systemic issue today..

Go.

Now let's drill down and be a little more focused, again, AI can answer:

Is there systemic racism in the LDS church?

There is a history of systemic racism in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), particularly regarding its long-standing policies that restricted Black members from full participation. While the church has since reversed those policies and condemned racism, critics argue that the organization has not fully grappled with the legacy of its past, and some Black members report still facing discrimination in congregations. 

Historical context

1. Priesthood and temple ban (1852–1978): Beginning in 1852 under Brigham Young, the church prohibited men of Black African descent from being ordained to the priesthood and prevented both Black men and women from participating in temple ordinances, which are considered necessary for the highest level of salvation.
2. Discrimination and segregation: During this period, the church actively promoted and enforced racial segregation.
3. Interracial marriage was discouraged and even considered a sin by some leaders.
4. Church facilities, such as the Hotel Utah, banned Black guests.
5. Church-operated Brigham Young University (BYU) opposed school desegregation and, for a time, officially discouraged Black students from attending.
6. Racist justifications: For over a century, church leaders used several race-based explanations for these policies, which have since been disavowed.
7. Black skin was viewed as a mark of a divine curse, linking Black people to biblical figures like Cain and Ham.
8. Some leaders taught that Black people were "less valiant" in a pre-mortal life, resulting in their diminished earthly status.
9. The ban is reversed (1978): In 1978, the church's First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received to extend the priesthood to "all worthy male members... without regard for race or color." The restrictions on temple access for Black members were also lifted. 

Lingering and ongoing issues

1. Failure to apologize: The church has not issued a formal apology for its past racist policies and teachings, which is a source of frustration and hurt for many Black members.
2. Disavowal without explanation: While a 2013 essay disavowed racist theories for the ban, it also stated that there is no "clear insight" into the ban's origin. This leaves some members struggling to reconcile the past, as some continue to believe the ban was God's will.
3. Enduring prejudice: Despite official changes, some Black members and scholars report that discriminatory attitudes and opinions persist in some congregations.
4. In 2022, a BYU professor was criticized for dismissing and downplaying the harm of the ban in a speech.
5. A 2023 survey of former members found that issues of race were among the top three reasons for disaffiliation.
6. Outreach vs. accountability: While the church has increased its outreach efforts, including a partnership with the NAACP, critics argue that these actions do not fully address the systemic issues rooted in its history. 

Church's current stance

The modern Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints officially condemns racism. In 2020, leaders called on members to abandon prejudice, and the church has partnered with the NAACP on initiatives to promote racial harmony. However, the institutional denial of racism throughout much of its history and the lack of a formal apology continue to be sources of pain and frustration for many, leaving the issue unresolved for some members and observers. 

Being suspicious in regards to strangers is a common and normal thing. Going out of your way to label that as racism is not a problem of mine.

It's really not all that complicated, it's actually very simple.Yes, race is a social construct, and racism is a social response to that social construct.That is how there is systemic racism

Elegantly expressed. Thank You SW.

Skin color, facial aspects, language, accent and --social position based on various aspects considered-- etc all come into play when people see or hear other people.

The social construct then unfolds in various ways with our interactions. I think it was Brown vs Board of Education court proceedings that led to USA banning segregation in schools in May, 1954. That was same year first nuclear submarine{ Admiral Rickover -- the Nautilus } was built.... AI..' Sept 1954{?} '.. it entered Naval service{?}

For those who are into celestial alignments affecting things here on Earth, what would they make of that.