Eliminate fossil fuel?

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#31 •••
@SergeantLynch
fossil fuels and are not renewable


Who the hell says that? AlGore? King Hubbard? A pair of idiots. I know you just did, but do not bother substantiating the claim anymore than they ever have. Loser argument. Do you think water is not renewable, but a finite resource? Why? It's made of two simple, plentiful, singular elements that easily combine. Just what do you think "renewable" means? Isn't breathable air renewable, not a finite resource? Again, several simple, plentiful elements. So, too, is petroleum crude. It is a natural process that has not mysteriously ended just because that is a convenient green argument for discontinuation of dinosaurs. Convenient, but without any proof whatsoever that it is a discontinued natural process, regardless of how long the process may require. When it's a daily process, with no evidence whatsoever of suddenly ending, days eventually add to billions of years.

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#32 •••
@Debby

None, but evidence suggests there might be.

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#33 •••
@fauxlaw

Okay Faux.


So picture a catastrophic change in the Earths climate coupled with dramatic geological effects and near total extinction of the thinking species.


Then perhaps in a few billion years, new deposits of fossil fuels will have developed.


Unlikely methinks...As scientists estimate that life on Earth has approximately 1 billion years to go.


But hey, what do scientists know.

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#34 •••
@SergeantLynch

A total extinction of the thinking species will remove what scientists know.

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#35 •••
@SergeantLynch
But hey, what do scientists know.


What, indeed? Climate science is all of about 200 years old. Geology, Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, are thousands of years in existence. Less than 200 years ago, "science was telling us the Earth centered the Universe. Blah, blah...


And a thinking species is not required to decompose and produce petroleum crude in the Earth. Ordinary animals and plants do it, and always have.

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#36 •••
@fauxlaw

Science is relative to the inquisitive nature of a thinking species.


As such over the past 200 years we have been able to extract and burn vast quantities of fossil fuels.


So cause and effect Faux, which some people think about seriously seriously, whereas others don't really want to think about it at all.


Nonetheless, all thanks to serious thinkers, we sit and we exchange conversation via the information super-highway, whilst the serious thinkers plot the future of mankind and material development.


And today, ordinary plants and animals decompose and ordinarily add to the surface layers of the planet, rather than being buried deep enough or in enough quantity to replace the fossil fuels that you know and love Faux.


And just to reiterate, fossil fuels are not the same as manufactured and renewable hydrocarbons/biofuels.

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#37 •••
@Debby

Yes, that would be so.

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#38 •••
@SergeantLynch
ordinary plants and animals decompose and ordinarily add to the surface layers of the planet


There's a difference, my friend, between day-to-day time and geologic time, and real scientists of real sciences, in this case, geology, know yester-eons' surface layers become...


...deep enough or in enough quantity to replace the fossil fuels.


See, you've admitted it yourself. The walls of the Grand Canyon are sufficient testament to that fact. It is a record of hundreds of millions to billions of years of replaceable "surface layers" into which we know there are buried deposits of all kinds of resources: water, precious metals, non-precious metals and other minerals, and...,

and,

...and crude. Get it?

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#39 •••
@fauxlaw

Yes that is correct, "petroleum crude" that you are so obsessed with, is a fossil fuel that was laid down "yester-eons" ago, in what is referred to as the carboniferous period which occurred some 300 million years ago.


And the Grand Canyon is testament to 6 million years of erosion and geological activity.


Whereas, precious and non precious metal, and fossil fuels (petroleum crude) are two completely different kettles of geological fish.


Without going into too much detail mineral bearing rocks formed in the Earths crust some 4.5 billion years ago, some 4.2 thousand million years before fossil fuels were formed.

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#40 •••

Maybe you need more detain on your last point because WE DO NOT KNOW how long the petroleum crude-making process requires, just that it has endured, and continues its production today. Nothing stopped that process other than the attempt to claim it stopped. Convenient claim, but with absolutely no empiric evidence that it did.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#41 •••
@fauxlaw

Naturally formed petroleum takes millions of years to create, typically requiring 10 to 100 million years for organic matter to be buried, heated and pressurized into oil.

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