Just been reading about AI

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In his book Pure Human Gregg Branden has a section on AI writing " AI is far from perfect".

he goes on- "While the use of machine intelligence definitely holds promise for applications such as the rapid scouring of historic records to find cancer-healing plants, the technology has not developed to the point that we want to relegate our life- or -death decisions to it."

"When the AI known as Chaos GPT, for example was asked, "what is the greatest threat to planet Earth today:" the April 2023 reply was not what the questioners expected.

In a now - famous exchanged viewed by millions on the social platform X, the answer was honest, direct and came without hesitation.

" Human beings are among the most destructive an selfish creatures in existence".

in the original version of the post - before it was updated in July 2024 the Bot went on to state

"there is no doubt that we must eliminate them before they destroy our planet". Braden goes on to cite a few false arrests court cases where the accused has been totally innocent because of the use of AI and how [ braindead ] lawyers had been totally reliant on AI to present their cases and judges have thrown them out. I've looked up a few of these cases and had the Judges in these case simply gone along with the false evidence and the often false precedent been accepted at face value, the accused in these cases could have been serving some serious time.

Key Cases Where Judges Rejected AI-Drafted Filings:

  1. Ontario, Canada (March 2025): Justice Joseph Kenkel ordered a defense lawyer to redo a submission for an aggravated assault case after finding it was written with AI, which produced fake legal citations, including a case that did not exist.
  2. Scotland (March 2026): Sheriff John MacRitchie dismissed a rent arrears case brought by a landlord who used AI to prepare the case. The AI generated a fake lawβ€”the "Interest on Debts (Scotland) Act 1985"β€”and fictitious tribunal rulings.
  3. New York, USA (April 2025): A New York Supreme Court judge slammed a 74-year-old man who used an AI-generated avatar to argue his case in an employment dispute without notifying the court.
  4. South Africa (March 2026): A High Court judge in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa, threw out a case brought by a law firm that included fabricated cases in their submissions, referring the matter to the Legal Practice Council for investigation. 

Common Judicial Concerns Regarding AI:

  1. Fabricated Case Law: Generative AI tools (like ChatGPT) can create convincing-looking case citations that are entirely made up, misleading the court.
  2. Lack of Verification: Judges emphasized that legal professionals and litigants have an "irresponsible" or "reckless" reliance on AI if they do not verify the output.
  3. Misleading the Court: Using AI-generated avatars or drafted papers without disclosure is seen as failing to meet the professional expertise required by the justice system.
  4. Contempt of Court: In some jurisdictions, the use of fake AI-generated cases has led to warnings of contempt of court or perverting the course of justice, which can carry severe penalties. 

Legal Community Response:

Courts, including those in the UK, India, and various US states, are warning that while AI can be a useful tool, it is no substitute for human expertise. Judges are increasingly enforcing stricter verification standards and, in some cases, banning the use of AI for legal research.


Braden offers this link.

How AI is Exposing Our Dark Desires

https://analyticsindiamag.com/ai-trends/how-ai-exposing-our-dark-desires-the-worlds-end/




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@Stephen

I trust AI more than I trust anyone else, except myself.


Yes, AI makes mistakes. Humans make way more mistakes.

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@SatanLucy

Humans can catch other human mistakes better than AI can catch other AI mistakes though.

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@Savant

Humans are very bad at fixing their mistakes. At this point, I wouldnt oppose to AI government, because AI is simply better than human politicians.

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@SatanLucy
Humans are very bad at fixing their mistakes

Well presumably you were able to identify those mistakes if you know they exist, which proves my point.

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@Savant

Yeah, thats why I rely on AI, because human mistakes are too many to count.

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@SatanLucy

My point is that humans can collaboratively do a lot more than AI can do on its own, even if AI outperforms humans on narrow tasks.

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@Savant

I think human plus AI does a lot more than just human. And it also depends on what group are you working with. Sure, I get good ideas from humans too, but there must be careful selection and fact check by AI as well. Merely listening to other humans gets you nowhere, because you have no time to listen to everyone in the world. One must be picky and also lucky not to fall victim of terrible advice.

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I think human plus AI does a lot more than just human.

Yeah. It also does a lot more than just AI. AI can't do every human task on the planet, so we still need humans to get a lot of things done.

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@SatanLucy

You cannot really fix a mistake unless you have a time machine.


You can perhaps repair the effects of mistakes, and/or do things differently next time.


Though what is a mistake, other than the human appreciation that things might have worked out better if done differently.


And if we did have a time machine, where to start...


Ever heard of the butterfly effect?

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@SatanLucy

Re: your #2, you ignore that there are likely more humans than individual AI units, What's the per capita data, if any exists? My opinion of Google has tanked since they gave their brain to AI. I don't trust it at all. AI has a Mad Magazine approach to civilization, a word I doubt it honestly

understands. It may not even fully comprehend what a woman is.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

I trust AI a lot because it provides me with quick information. And speed is important. It saves time. Of course, I watch a lot of YouTube videos for education, and that is when I want to research a bit more about something. But you can't even fully trust YouTube videos. Reality is, you can't trust anything with certainty, but you can use many different things, so if one thing messes up, the other thing makes up for it. I find AI useful, but I am not naive to think AI is flawless. Far from it. AI is just good at brainstorming quickly, and giving me data I need quickly, as well as giving me many points quickly if necessary. For deeper research, I am more likely to use educational YouTube videos. I write down a lot, and I have many notes. I have a habit of writing down things. I have my sources of information, and I use many sources of information.

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@SatanLucy

Started rewatching the X Files. Just seen episode 7 "Ghost in the Machine".




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@SatanLucy

That's all good, but I have virtually abandoned Google as a search engine ever since it handed its brain over to AI. AI, when it is correct, is a quick source, but one of its shortcomings is that, as offered by Google, it tends to mask any sourcing for its offerings, which, as a non-fiction writer with paying clients, they expect that my written information is properly researched and sourced. I do articles, white papers, booklets and full books on a variety of subjects. So, I now use another search engine that isn't AI-based, and readily offers sourcing.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

You can turn off AI at Google, I think.

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@SergeantLynch

Putting a -ai ...i.e. dash small ai-- at end of query avoids google AI search, tho I have no issues with Googles AI search. Discriminatory actions for information have always been necessary long before Google AI searches came into being.


AI Overview


....To disable AI Overviews in Google Search, use the "Web" filter after searching, add

&udm=14 to the search URL, or turn off "AI in Search" within the Google Labs menu. For a permanent solution, install browser extensions like "Hide Gemini" or create a custom search engine.'..



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@SatanLucy

Yes, you can turn off AI in Google, but you cannot stop them investing in AI.

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