“When you consider television's awesome power to educate, aren't you thankful it doesn't?”

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This quote is from Marshall McLuhan, communication theorist who became popular in the 60's for such quotes. This one is from his watershed book and media presentation with graphic artist Quentin Fiore.

I will paraphrase for the 21st century:


“When you consider AI's awesome power to educate, aren't you thankful it doesn't?”

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#2 •••
@fauxlaw

Well Faux, as I see it education is either formatively enforced or subliminally acquired...Basically just ways of transferring external data to internal memory.


So all data sources are viable, but obviously we must be subject to them in order to acquire them...Though the older we get the less efficient the process becomes.

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#3 •••
@fauxlaw
“When you consider AI's awesome power to educate, aren't you thankful it doesn't?”


AI, like all else humans deal with, has good and bad results attached to it. As B Fuller said, ..' we learn the most from our mistakes '...


If AI is a mistake, then we learn the most from our mistake. I think our grappling with AI is forcing us to grapple with our humanity in whole.


Currently there is a corporate battle for who has the most effective AI with the least error rate. We educate AI, as AI educates itself, and humans learn from their interaction with AI. Learn what?


Qunetin Fiore { 1920 - 2019? }...The Medium Is The Message is, as they say today, a meme. It was also a mantra back in the day. What does the book mean to you both as a professional and a relative-by-marriage?The book is such a brilliant distillation of Marshall’s ideas, taking pieces from The Gutenberg Galaxy and Understanding Media, and translating them into a form that’s so approachable.


It’s quite a marvel. Along with Bucky Fuller’s I Seem to be a Verb, those two books represent an incredibly significant moment in publishing and graphic design—one we continue to see mimicked to this day, though rarely as well. '...


..Reddit....' Top 15 AI Development Powerhouses Transforming Business in 2026

Now, let's dive into the companies that emerged as leaders. '....

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaaS/comments/1qvhr5y/15_ai_development_companies_dominating_2026_i/

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The actual quote wasn't about AI, it was about television, the quote McLuhan popularized was:


“When you consider television's awesome power to educate, aren't you thankful it doesn't?”


It actually came from a New Yorker cartoon; McLuhan just made it famous.

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#5 •••
@fauxlaw

Why are you resisting the AI? Well, actually, it doesnt matter. AI wins anyway.

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#6 •••
@SergeantLynch
the older we get the less efficient the process becomes.


I was was with you to you last sentence in your #2. I completely disagree with it; asI have aged, my research ability has increased. Not just because of increasing tech, but by desire to have accurate data at hand, and a lifetime of learning how to axquire it.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@ebuc

Nice analysis, ebuc. Well done. Yeah, it was very exciting to be introduced to McLuhan in the 60s; he distilled all the confusion he talked about then, when I was in high school, that the media explosion had so affected our real sources of education, that I remember crying when I read his commentary, in "Understanding Media," that we had, then, near instantaneous communication around the world, and the advent of 24-hour news, and were then confused by our entry into 19th century classrooms as we approached the 21st. That has all changed, and I feel privileged to have been able to watch it happen.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@SatanLucy

AI is almost like a psychodrama drug in a period where I want to remain in control of my environment and not hand it over free gratis to AI. I get hung up on its nomenclature, which I am surprised it has not yet insisted be changed: "Artificial." Right now, that is exactly what it is.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

Ah...But is your ability to retain data as good as it once was...I too, thanks in the main to IT, can acquire all sorts of interesting new data, but unless I utilise such data regularly it will soon be forgotten...Whereas I can recall all sorts of trivia acquired when I was younger..

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#10 •••
@SergeantLynch, @fauxlaw
"Artificial." Right now, that is exactly what it is


Artificial { non biologic } mimic of human intelligence with larger range of access to data to be sorted through.


A calculator also is artificial as is the auto { legs/horse }, or the tractor { ox-horse }, canoe with a sail { faster than swimming and longer distances }.


Faux, do you know what is faster than a calculator? See answer below







Calcu - now. ;--)) Why wait til later ^ v ^

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@ebuc

Relatively artificial, in so much as a broad assumption is that something constructed from manufactured and modified raw materials by the hands of intelligent primates, is artificial.


Though if the intelligent primate evolved naturally, then why not it's by-products?


Are yarns of wool or cotton cloth natural or artificial?

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@ebuc

What makes you think that by "artificial," I mean only non-biologic?

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@SergeantLynch
Are yarns of wool or cotton cloth natural or artificial?


Manipulated organic material is dead not a live biologic.


If treated with synthetic chemicals then artificial to some degree.

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@fauxlaw
What makes you think that by "artificial," I mean only non-biologic?


AI is a form of artificial consciousness and AI is discovered by biologic intelligence a differrent conscious experience from AI.


Consciousness exist in degrees, in variations, in levels of complexity and circumstances involving organic and/or biologic considerations

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It has been demonstrated that AI has the capacity to mimic emotion, but video of AI wrapped in a humanoid appearance, when taught how to emote, does so passively, emotionlessly, by making various facial expressions, but it is immediately obvious it has no sense of emotion at all; it merely mimics its best version of the various expressions representing emotion, making it obvious they have no idea how to express emotion in any shades of intensity because it truly does not naturally emote with wide ranges of anger, happiness, disappointment, horror and such. It's like it is saying "I know I am supposed to be happy about [whatever], so, here's my smile." Boring. Stiff. Lifeless, because it is. AI is literally artificial.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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@fauxlaw

Well, AI is AI and not the machine/device that intelligently processes data.


Typically humans attempt to create alternative data processing devices in their own image...Just as they created imaginary GODs in their own image...GOD principle is, but is not necessarily a bloke...AI will evolve further and will not necessarily need to look like a bloke or pull faces like an affected 20 year old Japanese nymphomaniac.

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@Sidewalker
The actual quote wasn't about AI, it was about television, the quote McLuhan popularized was:
“When you consider television's awesome power to educate, aren't you thankful it doesn't?”

Yeah that's the title of the post. Faux said he was paraphrasing it.

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#18 •••
@Savant

Thank you for catching the word substitution.

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