1990s-2000s Nostalgia Mafia (DP1)

They have rules that anything that happens outside of the game is off the table. Pm structure, mod messages, talking about someone not being there so they are scum blah blah. It still happens, people just lie about why they town read or scum read instead of being honest. Hand waiving off a mod mistake is impossible and always going to impact your read on someone

Ya that’s kind of a dumb rule. It’s the mod’s fault for being dumb

max - is going to log on and will always use the excuse he’s busy. (He is irl all the time) it’s not AI but it’s a very good reason for early pressure so we can lock him into something. He will absolutely coast as scum and be absent as town. So scum will use him as a mislynch or it’s giving him time to work out claims. 

yeah I was trying to decide if his inactivity was townish but then concluded something similar that it is NAI

mikal and Whiteflame definitely not paired

Vote Count

Airmax1227 (3/6) Lunatic, Mikal, Thoth

Mikal (1/6) Awesome5000

Whiteflame (1/6) Unsaid 

Not voting: (5/10) Ilikepie, Airmax1227, RexFlavius, Vader, Whiteflame

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch! 

Day 1 is 72 hours. Day phase 1 ends on Tuesday 9.16 @ 6:00 PM EST

Your role lost most of its utility when you claimed it btw

No offense to everyone here but this game so far has really given me appreciation to MU’s strict rules about preventing angle shooting and OG

to be fair the minutes all this by putting this stuff in the OP and making unnecessary commentary that needs elaboration, probably would be best if he didn’t say anything and let things play out

Mod invited* not minute

We really need airmax to post

Disagree a bit

mainly because they have to waste night kills to prevent me from singing or role blocking. Inevitability I’ll get one through to someone or they keep having to target me with kills and night actions to prevent it.

so at worst I’m opening up town to get results

balance is I gave the info to scum I’m assuming but with town locks. That’s was less detrimental now

Scum get your carol results too?

Was just thinking you could have baited a night kill if you didn’t claim

After reading about why he's townreading Thoth, I have a better grasp on why Mikal thinks he's town confirmed, and I have little reason to doubt Mikal after he's used mod confirmations that might have otherwise slipped away unnoticed to town confirm both Luna and Thoth (particularly for the latter since it's based in part on a PM). I don't love the claim, in part because that's not how Caroler worked when I got it (it worked only if my target didn't commit an active night action, whereas Mikal's functions more like a Dreamer, which is interrupted if he's visited) and in part because it's just strange to out that claim unprompted in a game with anti-claim when Mikal was largely townread (I get that it looks a bit off, but it's hardly SOP), but I also have little reason to doubt his alignment at this point unless he's really going out on a limb.

I can't dismiss any possibility of his being scum since he could be using one of these confirmations to make himself look good and then "confirm" his partner via PM, but at minimum, there's good reason to buy that Luna is town based on what we know and at least some reason to townread both Mikal and Thoth. So, unless circumstances change dramatically, they're in my town pool.

I'll need to dig into the behavior of others so far this DP, and I'd really love to see some action from Max and REF before we get much further, but this is where I'm starting.

Ya I think it’s better to have it out since the town locks. They will have to target the person I give it to. So can just have someone protect that person (one of the town locks) and I can give it to them

Does anyone think awesome is town?

I think it’s pie or him. il leaning pie because I take David’s lack of any questions means as him being flamed or upset. Prob pie for that reason

im fine with killing both as I think there’s a high chance 1 scum is there

Why would awesome still double down on his pm being diff after a Mod confirm. Poe is biggest sus right now

Hmm ok

vote: whiteflame

this game, at this point, is pointless if we can't ask others about their "win con" or if we can't get a sample role pm in the op lmao

just vote based on that i guess

even if it means i go down tbh

Pie *not Poe

Hey hey Mafia people. It's good to be back playing some forum mafia after having been away for awhile. I'm gona do my best, and surely caveman lawyer the hell out of this, since I don't know what the new metas and various shenanigans being employed these days are. But nonetheless, I hope I can contribute positively to my side, which happens to be town btw, and it's very important to me that town wins cuz I wana climb that mafia leaderboard and start 1-0.

I win with the town, and I'll probably claim soon since I don't want my level of activity to be a hindrance. Just want to point out that I'll be active the rest of this evening, and then tomorrow night after 6pm central (unless something comes up preventing that), but given that the DP ends at 5pm on Tuesday its unlikely I'll contribute anything on that day. So, I'll be an open book and scum hunt in the meantime.

Now I'm gona read the DP, and contribute what I can.

I think it’s pie or him. il leaning pie because I take David’s lack of any questions means as him being flamed or upset. Prob pie for that reason 

im fine with killing both as I think there’s a high chance 1 scum is there 

Im just going to nip this in the bud so we can move on. My role is confirmable

Like mod confirmable or action confirmable

Like mod confirmable or action confirmable

It’s affiliation confirmable

I’ll take that as a soft because I think you know what you are claiming.

okay I’ll drop this until tomorrow

So I'm not a fan of this mod psych stuff I'm reading (Just cuz I prefer behavior and results analysis and hate to analyze potential errors), but it's hard for me to just ignore it and not to town read Luna, and also Mikal I guess to a lesser extent as a result of it so far - but I'll touch on that more later.

I also would like to character and role claim because I can argue some utility in doing so (clarity of potential mechanics, setup, lessen my own neg activity liability on town etc) however I am not familiar with this anti-claim mechanic referenced. I don't think I've even experienced such a thing beyond simply giving Mafia too much info.

Could someone describe what such a mechanic looks like in practice? Like if I claim am I gona get day vigged then janitored? or something of equivalent dramatics etc? I'd like an idea of the risk me me claiming - especially since I do have 3 votes on me right now.

Just role claim. If it exists it’s prob tied to characters. The warning was super vague.

Could mean mafia have roles to counter yours blah blah. I’d rather you claim anyway. Especially with the inactive periods you will have. At least it holds you to being consistent

if pie is affil confirmable and we myself who also is. With Thoth and Luna. We have a strong town pool

Airmax. Air-max. You max out the air in your tires by increasing pressure. It's literally in the name.

Can't say I like this... but it isn't inherently scummy I suppose -_-

Just role claim. If it exists it’s prob tied to characters. The warning was super vague.

Fair enough.

I am - PM was written as "you" for anyone that wants to over-analyze the style in which I am paraphrasing this - Mr. Rogers, from Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood. I'm known being a gentle soul etc etc and my song “Won’t you be my neighbor” makes me the Neighborizer. Every night I can add someone to the neighborhood.

The next questions that should necessarily be asked are: Can I recruit mafia, will I know affiliation etc?

The PM points out that I will NOT know their affiliation, so I can assume that I can recruit mafia, and that I will not know about it. The discord "neighborhood PM" was created right away and exists currently.

I've never heard of this role before... I assume it's just a Mason recruiter... Though is the distinction that a Mason can't recruit mafia?

So ultimately my role confirms nothing, and aside from the utility I may provide in using it strategically, it provides nothing of affiliation confirmation value. Therefore I am essentially useless and just a vanilla with a meaningless recruiting ability - So keep that in mind Mafia and don't waste your NK on me, thanks :)

With that said, I am going to continue reading the DP.

Ima be honest. I thought pie was softing mason.

there are very few other things that are affiliation locked. Like 2 more. So he’s kinda dicked if he’s lying anyway

Wow, this Cryptography thing is crazy... I'm just gona ignore all of that since it's obviously intrinsically game breaking and should be against the rules by default - but I'll ignore that and just pretend I don't see any of it I guess.

Minimal in-depth analysis so far, but that's to be expected from a DP1. I like what I'm seeing from our new players. I don't have a read on either Unsaid or Awesome (though it leads slight town if I'm forced to state a lean), but I have my concerns about both since both seem like competent, quality players. I do hope both are town, and will be keeping my eye on them.

Ugh even more mod pysch with the mod chiming in, can't say I'm a fan of that. Can't ignore it though, so it leans to townish reads of Mikal, Luna and Thoth I guess....