Yeah, I really don't love Vader's claim and, especially given the fake claims scum received, I have a hard time buying it. I'll give this some more thought before I VTL, but that response to being VTL'd isn't helping his case.
Yeah, I really don't love Vader's claim and, especially given the fake claims scum received, I have a hard time buying it. I'll give this some more thought before I VTL, but that response to being VTL'd isn't helping his case.
I also think whiteflame would have caved to the pressure by now but idk
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Why is pie in the POE again?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
one thing I will say about whiteflame if he is scum, to look for his partner look for someone he isn't interacting with much. I notice as scum he barely interacts with his scum partner. You guys barely talked to each other in the last game and I feel like I remember that being consistent with games Ive been scum with him in too.
Usually true, yes.
I can enable or disable day chats. If I die, all day chats are disabled
So how can you enable or disable chats but chats are disabled when you die?
If mafia chat was the only day chat, my role would be strictly -EV, which is why I talked about masons and neighbors
It’s him or wf. Who do you want and why
I’m okay with one and then the other.
the fake claim thing is entirely relevant
pie said affiliation lock. You can’t fake claim into that. He’s just either lying and buying time or he’s town
you can get a fake claim of like a doc or a cop. Which wf said his role was town only. And supa just claimed with only pressure from me
It’s him or wf. Who do you want and why
Kind of neither. I am flipping back on supa. I town read his crash out, and whiteflame would have caved to the pressure by now, and is still resistant to claiming. I feel like theres probably a good reason for that. And we have a lot of claims on the board. If I am forced to lynch one of the two I'd almost rather no lynch, but with everyone online I can see us getting a lynch. I don't neccesarily want more claims though. So Idk.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Kind of neither. I am flipping back on supa. I town read his crash out, and whiteflame would have caved to the pressure by now, and is still resistant to claiming. I feel like theres probably a good reason for that. And we have a lot of claims on the board. If I am forced to lynch one of the two I'd almost rather no lynch, but with everyone online I can see us getting a lynch. I don't neccesarily want more claims though. So Idk.
We don't have a no lynch option. The lynch is mandatory.
Has Supa ever raged out before being lynched like that as scum? The two games I can recall him being scum in he just kind of sadly withered away and died once he thought it was hopeless.
Awesome, if he can't turn off chats at will and needs to die to do it, at least has positive utility even if he ends up being town so he's the safer option mechanically. And his flip reveals info on Airmax either way. However, I do find Whiteflame to be scummier. He kind of artfully redirected a pretty strong lynch consensus on him and Awesome to Supa and Awesome. I feel like he just picked the next most scummiest player and pushed hard for it to remove himself from consideration. If WF is scum I'm fairly certain both are town.
given the fake claims scum received
Is this TMI?
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12502-castlevania-mafia-dp2?page=1&post_number=29
Alright, now that's interesting. So there is effectively mod confirmation that your role is in this game. That does explain your earlier statement on Masons as well.
Doesnt confirm his affiliation though. And there’s still the question of the lack of win con in his PM. My theory is that as scum, he probably has an ability to disable chats, or it’s some sort of anti claim feature
Did David say anything about fake claims? I don't recall him doing so.
We don't have a no lynch option. The lynch is mandatory.
Idk both feel like mislynches to me though.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Read Dayphase above. Just looked for a game where he was pissed or crashed out and he def does it as scum
Okay nevermind lol.
i messaged him after Supas claim and he responded yes. You are free to check this
Has Supa ever raged out before being lynched like that as scum? The two games I can recall him being scum in he just kind of sadly withered away and died once he thought it was hopeless.
It's been a while since I've played with him as scum, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen him rage quit as scum or town.
Awesome, if he can't turn off chats at will and needs to die to do it, at least has positive utility even if he ends up being town so he's the safer option mechanically. And his flip reveals info on Airmax either way. However, I do find Whiteflame to be scummier. He kind of artfully redirected a pretty strong lynch consensus on him and Awesome to Supa and Awesome. I feel like he just picked the next most scummiest player and pushed hard for it to remove himself from consideration. If WF is scum I'm fairly certain both are town.
I've said multiple times if people want my claim, I'll give it. I think we're shooting ourselves in the foot with so many claims with the anti-claim mechanic in play, particularly if we have anyone we're reading as scum (and I know I do), but if that's what everyone decides they want at this point with all these claims on the table, then I will.
Doesnt confirm his affiliation though. And there’s still the question of the lack of win con in his PM. My theory is that as scum, he probably has an ability to disable chats, or it’s some sort of anti claim feature
Could be. I can't say I'm townreading him off of his claim alone.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12502-castlevania-mafia-dp2?page=1&post_number=29
That game was kind of different, and he admitted to being scum right after. I had basically caught them based on shoddy claims after just watching the show lol that wasn't nearly the same type of crash out as he is here, where he is literally talking about quitting mafia.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Idk both feel like mislynches to me though.
If you have another option, I'm open to discussing it. We do have to make a decision, though.
I know my position of lynching people without them claiming is seen as insane but this is why I do it. How many people have claimed DP1 now? It may make sense on an individual level but the compound effects are anti-town.
i am okay with backing off awesome. Whether he is town or not will solve itself.
How so?
Alright well I’m the tracker and I’m Steve from blues clues
tough shit if I die atp. Town deserve it for forcing claims in an anti mass claim mechanic
So you went from saying you’re not going to be claiming no matter what to claiming. I can see the justification, but what’s the justification Kohai gave?
awsomes role is in the op and kinda validates that role being in the game. Which to be fair he did say off the rip
It’s a direct counter to Max’s claimed role. Makes sense for scum to have something like what Awesome is claiming. Also note that he said he could enable/disable the ability, but if he died it would be perma disabled.
Bro are you scummin it up right now
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am I the only one who read it differently?
Yeah I’m done playing this fucking game lol this is bullshit
Fuck this
This a confession?
I did read it wrong.
i thought he said it enabled on him dying. That does change my read a bit
Awesome won’t matter. That will solve itself
Would you like to explain how?