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1990s-2000s Nostalgia Mafia (DP2)

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#1 •••

Welcome back to 1990s-2000s Nostalgia Mafia! 


Link to DP1: https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/19/1990s-2000s-nostalgia-mafia-dp1


Lynched day phase 1


Vader - Steve from Blues Clues 

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Steve from Blue’s Clues that first premiered in 1996. Throughout the show you are tasked with tracking down clues that your beloved dog, Blue, left behind. You then sit at your “thinking chair” to determine what those clues mean and what Blue wants you to do. This makes you the town tracker. Each night you can select a player and you can find out who, if anyone, they visited. You win when all threats to town are eliminated. 


Died night phase 1


Thoth Jimmy Neutron 

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Jimmy Neutron from The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius that first premiered in 2002. During the course of the series you invented a lie detector that you often use for your investigations. You are thus the lie detector. You may each night quote a statement that contains one self-contained piece of information made by a player and send this to the game host to learn whether the statement is completely true, partially true, or completely false. You cannot use this to confirm alignment (ie if someone simply states “I am town”). You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. 


Lunatic - Steve Irwin from The Crocodile Hunters

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Steve Irwin from The Crocodile Hunter that aired from 1996-2004. As a host you taught children and adults of all ages the beauty of nature and showed them how to wrestle a crocodile. Each night you may “wrestle a crocodile”. You will prevent that person from being able to use any night actions in addition to rendering them untargetable by all night actions. You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. 


Unsaid - Courage from Courage the Cowardly Dog 

Greetings,

Welcome to Kohai’s 90’s - early 2000’s mafia game. You are Courage from Courage the Cowardly Dog that first premiered on November 12, 1999. You are, well, cowardly; however when duty calls you step up to the plate and often rescue your owners. This makes you the cowardly 1-shot desperado. You may once per game select a target to be killed during a night phase.If the target is scum, the Desperado's kill attempt will be successful, and the Desperado will live. If the target is not scum, the Desperado will die, and the target will live. You are cowardly - if you successful eliminate a mafia member you will gain courage and obtain a 1x watcher role that you can use the next night phase only. You win when all threats to town are eliminated. 


Player list:

1. iLikePie

2. Thoth - Died night phase 1

3. Lunatic - Died night phase 1

4. awesome5000

5. Airmax1227

6. Rex

7. Vader - Lynched day phase 1

8. Mikal

9. Whiteflame

10. Unsaid - Died night phase 1


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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #2 •••

Vote Count


Not voting: (6/6): ILikePie, Awesome5000, Airmax1227, Rex, Mikal, Whiteflame 


With 6 players alive it takes 4 to lynch.


Day phase 2 will end on Saturday 9/20/2025 @ 6:00 PM EST unless there is a majority. 


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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #3 •••

So… OK. I’m trying to piece this together:


Unsaid almost certainly died due to his own role. Likely targeted town, automatically died. Don’t think it was the best choice to use that NP1 where he had the most possible people in POE, but his choice.


As for how Thoth and Luna both died… I can only speculate. Thoth didn’t have a visiting role, so he was probably the NK target. Luna had some sort of forced Commuter role where he could impose it on someone else, so maybe someone triggered his death on visit like a PGO? Anyone want to speak up about having a role like that?

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ISO #4 •••

Just realized one of their deaths might be explained by the anti-claim mechanic. We don’t know what scum got access to, even though they didn’t know either Luna or Thoth’s roles.


Also, we’re effectively at MYLO now, since there are likely two scum and six players left. I don’t think we have much choice other than to get more claims. I’m fine with going first.

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ISO #5 •••

could be a third faction, but this game is dumb.


I had a way to lock scum and the way david processes results made it impossible. On god im just willing to yolo lynch to get to the next game.

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ISO #6 •••

3 deaths in one night, im just lol

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ISO #7 •••
--> @Mikal

Beyond me, man. Still trying to process what the fuck happened.

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ISO #8 •••

im like 99 percent sure max is town and they of course kill the 2 town locks.


so im fine with shooting you pie or awesome and just crossing my fingers.



I will give input after people full claim.



we prob need to full claim



max is already claimed

im claimed

awesome is claimed




You and pie softed, so I expect something to come out

and the only person left is skep



I think this is normally dumb but if there is a tp, this game is prob fucked and we may as well poe down.

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ISO #9 •••
--> @Mikal

Like I said, I’m fine claiming first.

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ISO #10 •••
--> @whiteflame

go ahead

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ISO #11 •••

Might as well.


I’m Dexter’s Laboratory. Justification says there’s almost nothing I can’t create or solve.


I’m the Doc/Cop. I copped Awesome innocent.

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ISO #12 •••
--> @whiteflame

interesting, the game is solved

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ISO #13 •••

To clarify on the obvious “why Awesome” question, I chose him because I remained unsure of his affiliation despite that claim. That is almost certainly his role, meaning he’s not the GF even if he’s scum. So unless he got Lawyered or I got manipulated some other way, I think it’s accurate.

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ISO #14 •••

I’ll be off and on over most of the evening. Looking for claims from Pie and REF at this point.

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ISO #15 •••

I have a pertinent peace of information. I am sitting on it until it's necessary. But as dumb as last night is, I think we can solve.

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ISO #16 •••
--> @Mikal

I’ll wait for it.

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ISO #17 •••
--> @ILikePie5
Might as well.

I’m Dexter’s Laboratory. Justification says there’s almost nothing I can’t create or solve.

I’m the Doc/Cop. I copped Awesome innocent.
To clarify on the obvious “why Awesome” question, I chose him because I remained unsure of his affiliation despite that claim. That is almost certainly his role, meaning he’s not the GF even if he’s scum. So unless he got Lawyered or I got manipulated some other way, I think it’s accurate.

My question isn't 'why awesome' it's 'why cop?' We had two town-confirmed players. Why on earth didn't you protect either of them? The nightkill targets were incredibly obvious.


Also, why the fearless claim? We just had three deaths in one night after being warned about a strong anticlaim mechanic, with much of town claiming DP1 regardless of that. Personally, I'm incredibly leery about further claims. I have no role which could account for the extra deaths. That's the first question that should have been asked. I've tagged Pie as well to ask him that question. If he also answers no, the only explanation for those extra deaths is anticlaim. In that case full claiming this DP could lose us the game.


I think it's possible to solve this game without more full claims on the table. Given the circumstances, I think that full claiming may lose us the game even if we hit scum this DP by doing so if the mechanic is so strong that it can create extra deaths in the NP.

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ISO #18 •••
--> @RexFavilla

It wont, I can explain why in a second but I am like 99 percent sure we can solve. I am waiting on something

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ISO #19 •••

Like protecting either one gave you a 50% chance of stopping a NK. How is that better than copping someone who imo does not seem particularly scummy? Why not cop Pie? He's one of the most polarizing players and a far more difficult to read one.

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ISO #20 •••

*how is that NOT better than

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ISO #21 •••

Pie also said he was affil confirm.


I will explain this after we hear from everyone. But I think I have both scum

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ISO #22 •••

Copping Awesome makes sense if you want to buddy him and Airmax at MYLO. I think it's an absolutely mind-boggling night action from a town perspective.

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ISO #23 •••
--> @RexFavilla

trust, wait. It's a good thing

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ISO #24 •••

not that choice is good, but I have very very likely have the solve

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ISO #25 •••

Fine. But I want Whiteflame to defend his night action. It might give us insight. And I want Whiteflame to tell me who he supports lynching today.

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ISO #26 •••
--> @ILikePie5

you said you were afill lock, I need you to tell me exactly why you are affil lock and like now.

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ISO #27 •••
--> @RexFavilla

If you don’t think I made the optimal decision, then fine, whatever. Trying to protect Luna or Thoth might have been the better choice, but I had no way of knowing there would be three deaths during the NP and my goal was to focus on trying to bring down POE first and foremost. In retrospect, using the Doc made more sense, but I disagree that would have been the best choice if there had been one NK.


I disagree that Awesome was not scummy or that Pie was the better choice.


As for claiming, frankly, we’re at MYLO. What happens to me during the NP is entirely irrelevant if we don’t lynch correctly this DP, and I know I was on the chopping block if I refused to claim. Again, you might disagree with the choice, but I see it as the only meaningful way forward at this point.

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ISO #28 •••
--> @whiteflame

can you explain to me why you know we are at mylo?


math this out?


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ISO #29 •••
--> @RexFavilla
But I want Whiteflame to defend his night action. It might give us insight. And I want Whiteflame to tell me who he supports lynching today.


I have defended my choices. I can detail all the reasons I was on the fence about Awesome if you’d like, though I discussed several last DP. As for who to lynch, I’m waiting for whatever other information Mikal, you and Pie may provide before I try to sort it out.

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ISO #30 •••
--> @Mikal
can you explain to me why you know we are at mylo?

math this out?


Six players alive, includes two scum. 4-2 is MYLO.

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