Can you claim?
I can but I’d rather soft claim. I am a general. If you need more I can but I don’t know how obvious it makes my role if I do.
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Btw have you heard what’s going on at wall st right now?
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Not at all.
okay that’s not what I was expecting you to say.
Realistically I probably would’ve wanted to kill Kohai for personal reasons and to avoid the boneheadedness.
Answer Thoth’s question por favor
Luna - I feel like Luna has been back benching a little, basicallly letting Mikal run the show. As scum, he tends to back bench, and I don’t see a genuine contribution besides the one reads post. I also don’t like that he wanted to keep an outted TP alive.
I won't disagree that I haven't been as aggressive as normal, partly due to having most of my posts been on mobile since the game started, today is the first day I can sit down at a computer and play (ive been falling asleep at work lately). That said I would dis-agree that I take a back bench as scum. As scum I would be researching the fvck out of this theme even though it's not up my alley. Look at any town game of mine where I don't know the theme and you will see I never do research and only focus behavior, just like Terraria. I have had a solid town read on mikal from early on and since he does know the theme and has already caught a scum slip with it, I am trusting his judgement on theme decisions, though I think he needs to be a bit more careful how he publicly asks for information. If we have a smart or non lazy scum team they could piece together stuff he doesn't think they will.
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Btw have you heard what’s going on at wall st right now?
Not at all.
The more i hear in the news these days the more right wing I am becoming, hate to admit it. I now fully support Donald Trump building his big Iron Wall. Anyways not to be too political, but the world is going insane lately.
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If I were scum, my top concern would be hunting a recruit target, and I think you would all agree with this. Rex knew that whoever rolled scum would likely not be a lore-lord and would have no way of knowing whether or not a character can be recruited. My guess is that the anti-claim mechanic lets scum check your recruitability if they know certain information about your character, possibly with a full Rolecop
Anyone think this is borderline TMI?
On one hand it does, but I will say since getting to know thoth these last few games, he seems to literally post any and every thought that pops in his head. But yeah I'm leaning towards TMI atm.
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VTL: Thoth
There's something that's been bothering me about Thoth and I am having difficulties finding the way to articulate why. Currently my POE is Pie, Vader, Thoth and maybe Mikal. I am almost certain there is at least one OG scum in that pile.
I am going to join you on this one.
VTL thoth. He's been rubbing me the wrong way the whole game.
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I just had a thought that I want to share while I'm on, since I might not be active again until evening. I have a guess at what (one of?) the anti-claim mechanic(s) is, and call it tinfoil modpsyche if you want. It's nearly confirmed, maybe hard-confirmed if I forgot something, that scum have can recruit, details of recruitment ability unknown. Mikal said he could determine which characters can or cannot be recruited and that the split would be hard to find even with Googling unless you had played the game, claims of which I was suspicious of yesterday but trust now that I townlock Mikal. If I were scum, my top concern would be hunting a recruit target, and I think you would all agree with this. Rex knew that whoever rolled scum would likely not be a lore-lord and would have no way of knowing whether or not a character can be recruited. My guess is that the anti-claim mechanic lets scum check your recruitability if they know certain information about your character, possibly with a full Rolecop, possibly yes/no, possibly not quite either of those two. It seems hard enough anti-claim to, "allow scum to use their roles to much greater effect", but soft enough that Rex might use it despite his rumored distaste for anti-claim.
This is a lot of wild assumptions. What leads you to some of these theories? I can see why Kohai would see this as TMI, these are either hair brained at best, or demonstrate you have a lot of knowledge you shouldn't.
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VTL Vader
lunchtime
There is a reason I’m asking.
and I was assuming you were were barbosa
and there is a part of me that just wants to have more claims
largely because I think I can solve with inconsistencies. Combine that with behavior and we have a narrow list.
by end of claim there will be at least one claim that’s true and converted very likely. It’s why I want to do as much as I can now catching theme before they potentially convert (assuming they Havnt or could have missed ). Cus end of game it’s all behavior
David’s claim seems largely reasonable and he’s been hinting at it since dp1
I don’t think we need to fully out but I’m okay with getting Vader and thoths full claims and picking from there
and there is a part of me that just wants to have more claims
largely because I think I can solve with inconsistencies. Combine that with behavior and we have a narrow list.
by end of claim there will be at least one claim that’s true and converted very likely. It’s why I want to do as much as I can now catching theme before they potentially convert (assuming they Havnt or could have missed ). Cus end of game it’s all behavior
If this is the case it's probably better to do a mass, otherwise you are targetting claims from potential townies whilst mafia skate by. A mass at least holds everyone accountable. However if we are assuming 1. There is a recruiter, and 2. That there is a janitor, then mafia probably already have fake claims ready.
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Wylteds ability to heal poison is largely inconsistent with theme
Luna wanting to leave wf alive bugs me
and Thoth is just behaving weird
thats about all I have to go on.
but since the Luna claim
town pile to me is
me
max
david
castin
Let’s get Thoth’s info first before we decide if we want any more claims.
That’s fair. I forgot about the janitor
Surprised we do not have more results tbh
VTL thoth. He's been rubbing me the wrong way the whole game.
Begone Thoth
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Luna wanting to leave wf alive bugs me
I mean I substantiated it, so I am not sure why. I think auto lynching third parties sets a standard for third parties to not want to work with town in the future. Also we have had plenty of games where we have treated joint winning TP's as town and they have won along side town, so treating them hostilely wastes a mis lynch and is just unnecessary. I don't know how Ref does it, but for numbers purposes I usually include a third party in town numbers for balance purposes. If you operate under the assumption whiteflame was just scum and lying, I get lynching him, but is was pretty obvious he was TP based on how quick he caved and admitted it, and divulged his fake claim rather than sticking to his guns. And he complied with you almost immediately. Scum had no incentive to do that.
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This is a lot of wild assumptions. What leads you to some of these theories? I can see why Kohai would see this as TMI, these are either hair brained at best, or demonstrate you have a lot of knowledge you shouldn't.
It demonstrates that I am making blind but sensible guesses under reasonable assumptions.
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I think there is only one role Thoth could be but I have no idea how that role makes him town place me
I do understand how it would solve for the wylted situation
I agree he was tp. I said he prob was even before he claimed it. But the second they can turn numbers and win with scum they will play to their wincon and out
I agree he was tp. I said he prob was even before he claimed it. But the second they can turn numbers and win with scum they will play to their wincon and out
Can you find a recent game where this has happened? Because I can point to multiple on DART where the opposite has happened, and they actively town side. As someone who has literally been apart of just about every mafia game on DART minus maybe a total of 5, I can guarantee you the numbers support third party siding with town.
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I’m just saying they will side with who wins.
if it’s 4-3-1 and they can side with scum to auto win. The will. That’s playing to their win con
Also reading back thoths post. I don’t think it’s tmi. From his pov and some of the things I’ve said. I see how he can get to those conclusions other than the anti claim which is not in the game.
On board with claiming atp. Other than Mikal's theme theorizing I dont feel like we've dug up much to go on.
I’m just saying they will side with who wins.
if it’s 4-3-1 and they can side with scum to auto win. The will. That’s playing to their win con
I am pointing out that they rarely do. But they are far more likely to if we start auto lynching third parties, and then it will lead to the same complaint people had on DDO "This is bullsh1t I don't wanna play third party because they just get auto lynched" and that was why we rarely see them anymore because people just hate playing a role that gets auto lynched, even if they can joint win and are willing to actively help town.
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