Madoka Magica - Episode 2

Due to the complexity of the setup this may be better to do 72 hours

Yuh 72

So you’re saying that all your PM said is the name of your character and the role?

I agree with 72

Going to log off for now but I have some thoughts about some of the info. I think there is a clear distinction between the two questions asked. One direction recruitment and one that was a hidden ability that we have 0 idea what it was for. 50% said yes and 50% said no but each to different questions that they were asked. I am actually a bit more sus of Pie this DP because of this bold “denial” claim. Realistically, there is no reason to deny a recruitment unless you know there isn’t going to be a NK in the night, and we had no way of guaranteeing that. Shit if I got offered to be recruited, and it would’ve AT THE MINIMUM by a 5v2 game, that’s just 2 DP’s to live on. Saying it’s scummy to deny that is IMO scummy to suggest because if you are solely thinking about winning a game, I think the optimal play is to accept. Not even to mention that THE ACTION failed.

Anyways, right now I don’t really have any strong reads. Just a lot of FoS with some slight town reads. I do think Pie bumps up the list a bit with this.

I also kinda town read Kohai. Pretty clear there meta is a bit TMI to lead the game and I think him boldly claiming an action the first posts makes me think he’s town. Unless you think he’s making a 200 IQ play as scum but I’m not so sure

Right now I think my Poe is Pie, WF, Rex, and Mikal and that’s literally from POE that can simply change. In fact, if Mikal claims something then I will actually move Mikal into my town pile but I don’t want to force a claim onto him

Anyway going to bed, will probably read the posts at 5am cst tmrw

I'm going to call it a night here, can't seem to focus on reading through these last few posts - clearly, a lack of sleep the last few nights is catching up with me. I'm fine switching back to 72 hours since we have more substantive material to cover and I want to make sure Mikal in particular gets more opportunity to post.

I still don’t understand where you’re getting the whole “two different question” thing from.

Yuh just extend this one

Correct. It stated the name of my character and a description of my character but did not give me a justification for why I am an emissary or why I know what I know

More from Kohai

I'm hitomi, an emessary. I start the game with a few mod-confirmed information: (1) The only anti claim mechanic is if multiple people claimed their character on day 1. This is why I was so adamant about no one claiming or hinting to their role.

Hitomi isn’t a magical girl, and upon reading the wiki, was never offered a contract from Kyubey.

There is a defense here from a math standpoint: If we believe Kyubey and Walpergisnacht are in the game, along with all five magical girls, there still needs to be one more character, such as Hitomi. And that’s with a few assumptions in place, when there could be more. Point being, it is possible theme accuracy was sacrificed for game mechanics. Idk what role Hitomi could gain, though, and it’s not a guarantee.

Thst’s not what an emissary usually is. This isn’t Thoth’s original mafia community though. It’s plausible.

The other thing here: No warning to town about voting you last DP? Why?

Magic was outed and I got confirmation that this counts towards anti-claim. Mag1c thought the outing had to do with a secret ability which turned out to be correct. I had a secret ability that was told to me on n1: Anyone who voted for me on day 1 had a change to have their character revealed. This is why magic's character got revealed. I still believe he is town as he has been the most towny player all game. We are now safe to claim character

This just seems way too specific, the info given, the anti claim, and the reveal of a hidden ability. It feels made up.

This is why I had Kohai pegged as lock scum early in the DP.

legit the only thing thrown by me off here are some of the weird things he said

*throwing me off

The person who targeted me with changing alignments most likely was a person strong town reading me or someone PR hunting. The person that matches this most is whiteflame. Here's why: Post # 212 whiteflame stated this: "I don't know what to make of what Kohai's getting at, but worth seeing what he's cooking next DP. Gave away that he has a PR, so that might make for some shenanigans."

need to look at dp1 in this

We may be dealing with multiple recruiters. 

Here’s more of the extreme ignorance that made me wonder if he’s just town and weird…

1) Mag1c is almost certainly originally town. The biggest question is if he’s still town as he would be a prime target. 

2) Everyone is back to null for obvious reasons

i remember not liking this.

1. you opened up the DP saying I’m still probably town
2. posing the “biggest question” on me is basically putting me outside of the group of people who are all null. Logically I should be back to null as well

this felt like a setup to get people sus of me

Did vader claim what he is, also does anyone have a result. I do have some information but its largely useless unless other results are said

B) You strongly suggested that you had a PR in post #187:

this is from Whiteflame. It’s reasonable as a response to Kohai.

Discussed this last DP with Mag1c

Scum slip?? When and where was this discussed?

From Kohai. Jumping at this is so utterly stupid that I think mafiosos should know not to. Again with the extreme ignorance

can you elaborate? Just a tiny bit

Still don’t understand the whole Vader is lock town thing from Kohai

The other thing here: No warning to town about voting you last DP? Why

It was a hidden ability. I did not know that voting for me had a chance of having character revealed

Thst’s not what an emissary usually is. This isn’t Thoth’s original mafia community though. It’s plausible.

An emissary per the MU is usually a role that starts with information about a person who is town aligned. I don’t see any role that quite matches up with knowing slanting about the setup so I guess that’s why I was called an emissary.

72 hours for today it is. This day phase ends at midnight on November 27. I would appreciate it if a staff member edited November 26 to November 27 in the OP. I will think about making future DPs 72 hours. Please message me on Discord if you have feelings about that.

It was a hidden ability. I did not know that voting for me had a chance of having character revealed

oh, right. Duh.

but then it being revealed to you overnight… just weird.

does anyone else see this as TMI?

paraphrased from a question you had about Whiteflame.

No, basic lore knowledge says Kyubey as recruiter makes sense. If I can find it on the fandom wiki, then Whiteflame definitely knows about it.

I edited the OP.

An emissary per the MU is usually a role that starts with information about a person who is town aligned. I don’t see any role that quite matches up with knowing slanting about the setup so I guess that’s why I was called an emissary. 

informed townie isn’t on the MU list so this is fair

oh, right. Duh.

but then it being revealed to you overnight… just weird.

This entire setup is weird.

No, basic lore knowledge says Kyubey as recruiter makes sense. If I can find it on the fandom wiki, then Whiteflame definitely knows about it.

Fair. I do admit that I have been tunneling wf a bit hard.

#38 and 52 are more ignorance

kinda has me thinking it might be feigned at this point

Yeah I think I scumread Kohai.

outside of Kohai I’ve been thinking about Pie.

yesterday I felt he was being opportunistic and taking more of a back seat than usual, here isnt much different. Starts off DP hard towning Kohai, now is throwing a major sus on him.

obv Kohai is pretty sus but it still feels opportunistic