HCBM Mafia DP2

I had assumed he had a red check on whiteflame. Thoth can you claim if you actually have a red check

Haven't seen a "red check" referenced before. You mean an investigative result?

In Barry mafia the informed was useless and even if the hidden Nexus was alive, no one bothered with the informed.

You know, VTL Thoth. I agree with your point on Thoth. I remember him being an experienced player, so its odd he won't explain his read. Hes just pissing away time if town for no reason. I get its the holiday, but bro, explain yourself.

Don't love that you were willing to follow him so readily in the first place without any explanation.

Interesting... I have been townreading Kohai, who sadly hasn't been more active, and while Mharman has been more active, I only have a lean town on him. I honestly wouldn't put it past WF to be buddies with Thoth.

Don't get this take on me and Thoth at all. This would be the single weirdest bus I've ever seen.

I’m not saying my info isn’t accurate, it probably is, but it’s not 100%

This is what I'm talking about, you're telling me it's not 100% accurate but also you were told it's 100 accurate

Either you're a hapless townie or your scummate is furious rn

*100%

Why would I make up this shit as scum?

Why would I even claim this role with an outed Tracker?

Honestly I'm hesitating to scumread him just because this would be such a fumble-y play as scum.

Alright, seems like some of the rest of what I missed was Mag1c going down a rabbit hole thinking Kohai was the Miller (we know he's Hated) and discussing the possibility of other investigative role that could partially CC Magoroth. I can say straight up: I'm not investigative, and it doesn't look like anyone else is raising their hand at this point.

I'm going to work up some detailed reads. Might not be up until late, but I'm aiming to get them up tonight.

It's 50/50 for me whether Magoroth is telling the truth and Mag1c is just trying to flush out a possible third investigative with this "unheard of for there to be three whoops no miller silly me" screen, or Magoroth is just plain fumbling scum. I'd say just lynch him and if he flips innocent we know the Sensor info is accurate, but that puts us at MYLO tomorrow.

I agree that three investigatives sounds odd, but Wryly is right that there were four investigatives in Alien. Four isn't just odd, it's even.

Sorry if I missed it, but did you say your justification? While I'm no fan of outing information needlessly, and Vader did say that justification-hunting might not be the best route for this game, right now there are two paths we can go by and there's still time to change the road we're on. I think our choice of how to play this day phase boils down to whether or not we can trust you.

I'm also going to say that my role is not investigative.

Haven't seen a "red check" referenced before. You mean an investigative result?

Red check means they have a guilty result. It comes from MU and MS where mafia are usually colored in red and town is colored in green.

It's 50/50 for me whether Magoroth is telling the truth and Mag1c is just trying to flush out a possible third investigative with this "unheard of for there to be three whoops no miller silly me" screen

I do agree that Mag1c seemed very invested in making that point.

Red check means they have a guilty result. It comes from MU and MS where mafia are usually colored in red and town is colored in green.

Does this only apply to cops or also to other investigatives, like if a Tracker saw someone visit whoever died overnight?

Again, my only case against whiteflame is that he wrote a post of his in a specific way, and I checked some old games and found that he does this more often as scum than as town. Then again, per Bayes' theorem, you also have to factor in that he is a priori more likely to be town than scum, so it's not exactly making his possible scummity evident beyond a reasonable doubt.

Although I suppose it could be coincidence. I should really repeat it with a larger sample size, at least ten scum and town games each.

So in Nostalgia mafia there was a Tracker, a Lie Detector, and a Cop. In Alien mafia, there was a Cop, Tracker, Informant, and Archaeologist. In Barry mafia there was an Informed Townie, a Dreamer, and a Watcher/Tracker. Hmm.

Informed is not an investigative. As for the other two games, I was not in those, in my defense. But point taken. I’ll go look at Vader’s past games.

At any rate, the lack of another investigative helps Magoroth’s claim.

As for the other two games, I was not in those, in my defense.

While I know you as the self-confident type, you did strike me as very invested and very confident in insisting there was no way there could be three investigatives in any game on here. Not to claim that I believe that there are three investigatives.

I haven’t removed my vote on you for a reason btw

I'm gonna wind down the clock bleeding this DP for more behavioral data and then just VTL Magoroth. Either he flips scum or I have my POE. I'm fine with going to MYLO tomorrow.

I haven’t removed my vote on you for a reason btw

This almost makes me wonder if you rolecopped me lmfao

No, I’m just not dealing with you refusing to explain your reads.

You still have not explained #304 btw

I don’t care about that one. I care about how he’s specifically withholding his case to have a competitive edge for future games.

If people do this the game will simply devolve into “orange sus” and nothing more.

They were the people he marked as null or scumlean. I could be wrong, but I don't think whiteflame would mark his scummate as townlean that early. I think he would create distance.

He thought he detected a small tell; unless he explains it I will give it no significance and neither will anyone else. It's a toothless advantage. We've now wasted more time talking about it than it's worth.

We were always going to. That’s part of why it’s disruptive.

Imma be honest with yall im getting tired of playing the complete weirdos…