HCBM Mafia DP2

actually never mind I read your whole post

shining, what is your opinion on the people here?

I do agree with you Thoth should explain his scum read on Whiteflame, but I don’t understand why you’re so aggressive towards him about this.

VTL Mag1cman

You realise if I’m lynched my info is of very little help to you, especially in MyLo, right?

You have to pick between two sets of players that contain one scum, and you have a 33% chance of picking incorrectly, if you do it purely randomly. So why did you say my death is beneficial of you in any shape or form?

Vote Count

Thoth (2/4) - Magicman, Shining

Mag1cman (2/4) - Thoth, Magoroth

You can doubt my claim, but you haven’t explained shit why I’m scummy. You just said I’m scummy and my play reeks of scum or something even though I’m 100% legit. Explain yourself.

I’m not a fan of random people yelling I’m scum without explanation. Wend did that last game and he flipped Serial Killer.

You’re overexplaining here, “not outing your reason for a read is stupid and one of my pet peeves"

Why the need to say this?

I literally gave my reasons for sussing you. Apparently typing a whole segment on you isn’t enough.

But apparently what I said about Thoth is also over-explaining.

I’m vanilla. I was not given a justification for “choking against the 0-3 Broncos that just lost 70-20 to the dolphins” being vanilla.

Unvote

thank you.

Yes, and your reasons were bs from my point of view. You’re calling me fake when I know I’m not being fake.

You can’t call someone fake without them attacking you when they know they aren’t being fake.

“I’m forced to OMGUS you because I know I’m town.”

lol

And ofc my reasons are gonna be bs from the pov of the person I’m sussing that’s not the same thing as failing to explain a read

MAGOROTH

Pretty odd claim. I really find it hard to accept his play this past DP. I think Mharman already pointed this out but it really was odd that hes bouncing back and forth how reliable his claim is. I can't believe Vader would say his role is 100% reliable and would also give the number of scum on the Rex lynch. His role is busted. Even without Pie, I don't know he expected mafia to win this. Hes lean scum for me.

THOTH

Thoth is also playing bizarrely. When he said hes confident WF is scum, he proceeds to afk for hours after numerous attempts to explain and only then gives a fairly contrived scumtell WF supposedly created. WF might actually be scum, but I really don't like how he tried to hide it. Thoth also explains that WF made the same tell as town, so how reliable is it even?

WHITEFLAME

Whiteflame has been afk all game. I remember him being more active and while he never really drove town like Pie does, he does help town when he can. Maybe hes busy from the holidays, but its frustrating because its making me scum read him, especially when Thoth and Magoroth are sussing him.

MHARMAN

Mharman claim stands out to me because while I'll behavior read him as town, he claim as vanilla stand out because counting him, we had 3 vanilla like roles (Hated, bleeder and now vanilla). I could buy it, but its worth taking into consideration.

Scum is probably WF/Thoth or maybe Thoth/Magoroth.

Do you townread Magoroth or not?

Eh. Bleeder’s just a weaker bulletproof.

He’s probably giving weaker roles so the game stays role madness. Can’t have too many vanillas in a rolemad game.

Vote Count

Thoth (1/4) - Shining

Mag1cman (2/4) - Thoth, Magoroth

okay... so apparently Miller would add +1 to the vote count if a Miller exists.

nobody in [Kohai, Mag1cman, etc] has claimed Miller so I assume Miller doesn’t exist. I will treat any Miller claim as a scum claim because Miller should IMMEDIATELY claim. Not claiming as Miller when you are one is stupid, it’s ridiculously anti-Town because it gives scum basically the possibility to fake claim whatever they want and get away with it.

only possibility is if there’s a Miller that doesn’t know they’re a Miller, and idk if that’s possible.

this is what I meant about my role not being reliable. I have no idea why people assume I have to trust mechanical information in a setup where we don’t know anything about the roles.

no, I OMGUS you because you almost say I’m 100% confirmed scum and the reasons you give are B.S. “he’s fake"

literally anyone can say anyone else is fake so this reason is bullshit. you gotta give a significantly better reason than that or I’m gonna deathtunnel you.

anyone can say anyone else is fake, it’s a subjective thing which you can’t explain which is great cover if you’re scum and it makes it look like you’re scum hunting. so give an actual reason why I’m scum, or begone.

what is the purpose of me claiming what I claimed?

besides, why can I not be Town who acts fake?

A part of me wants to lynch Wryly, because in what world does a Town say “we should lynch you to verify if your PoE is legit” when that PoE may not even be 1) legit and 2) is incredibly weak, and actually useless in MyLo. It’s a way to drive a mislynch on a Town.

I could see 1) being a legitimate thought coming from a Town, but not 2).

I am thinking that my role probably IS useful, as it can detect actual information, but it probably sees either one Mafia as Town or one Town as Mafia, but not both.

meaning, I believe that it’s possible for there to be two scum in [Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame], although I’m unsure how likely it is.

Wryly’s comment about me being lynched could imply the scum are actually in [Wryly, Thoth, Shining].

Also @Shining from what you say if anything Thoth looks like Town to me. I could see a Town AFKing after stating a sure scumread on someone. maybe he was afraid he was wrong and that’s why he didn’t go into details.

and the inconsistency you mention, I actually find town indicative. usually town are more inconsistent. I’m less inconsistent as scum personally.

Kohai, I am sure you would’ve claimed it by now, but you are 100% not a Miller or something, correct?

Actually, are we allowed to dump our character claims verbatim? I assume we aren’t?

Can everyone take a look at their character claims and verify if maybe the flavour hints at some part of their role that is hidden to them?

In 2019, I missed a kick that woulda won the game from 43 yards. I hit it off the left and right crossbar (?).

I am also specifically told this is something I was known for doing a lot that season.

If the flavour is meaningful in any way, it kinda does imply I can see certain Mafia as Town or Town as Mafia.

Can we get full character claims? From everyone in [Kohai, Mag1cman, Whiteflame]?

Hated does imply a kind of Miller.

I wonder if that’s a slip from Mag1cman, Godfather who is immune to detection and would know Matt Eberflus (Kohai) is most probably Miller.

Since Kohai never actually said he’s a Miller.

I am not a miller. I'm just a hated vanilla town.

On the other hand Matt Eberflus never actually interacted with Cody Parkey in any relevant way as far as I can tell.

So maybe I’m just reading too much into it.

Can you post your flavour paraphrased?

Is there anything that hints at people thinking you’re Mafia?