MAGA Mafia DP1

unvote VTL banana

She always folds to pressure so we will immediately know if she's scum once we get three votes on her. Might as well do it

if i was scum telling me your strategy kind of defeats the purpose if you were trying to get a reaction out of me lol also i have basically already claimed so idk what you want to accomplish here

I am like 90% sure that banana is scum I don't want to put a lot of effort into corralling you guys and since we have no good choices other than her let's just lynch her.

lol idek what to say to this, lynch me ig :0

It's not a gut read but she is sticking out as scum to me.reread her posts and see if she is scum hunting or just commenting on other people's analysis by randomly contradicting them in tiny ways to generate conversation and appear to be scum hunting.

i feel like ive contributed to the game more than a quite a few people have.

I see your additional soft so I guess I’ll also make an additional soft, although 99% chance you’ll guess it immediately. I was a former US senator.

Can't a mod just look at the previous post version and see that all I did was add a missing word? And you all know I wouldn't edit something game-related anyway.

Can't a mod just look at the previous post version and see that all I did was add a missing word? And you all know I wouldn't edit something game-related anyway.

honestly who really cares, if anyone is trying to lynch you for that they are probably scum

Official Vote Count:

Kohai (2/5) - REF, Thoth

Banana (1/5) - Wylted

Thoth (1/5) - Kohai

REF (1/5) - Banana

Mago (1/5) - Whiteflame

Approximated 25 hours remaining

i feel like ive contributed to the game more than a quite a few people have.

It's not really a question of how much you've contributed, more one of what kinds of contributions you're giving. He's pointing to a pattern of behavior. It doesn't scream "scummy" to me, but it is a little off of your normal style of play looking back through our games on DART. It's been long enough and your interactions are consistent enough that I'm not automatically scumreading it, and it's not like you've never contradicted others' reads and thoughts about the game setup before, just seems like that's common to your responses this game and that stands out. I get where wylted's coming from at least.

Can't a mod just look at the previous post version and see that all I did was add a missing word? And you all know I wouldn't edit something game-related anyway.

I don't have that kind of access, so you'd need to talk to an admin like Savant. That being said, it seems like a lot of work to go through for something that isn't terribly important. You edited a post and drew attention to it publicly. From where I'm sitting, that doesn't square with you being scum.

I see your additional soft so I guess I’ll also make an additional soft, although 99% chance you’ll guess it immediately. I was a former US senator.

A bit excessive since that does narrow it down a lot, but not completely. That being said, pretty sure I know who you are, even though there are other options.

It's not really a question of how much you've contributed, more one of what kinds of contributions you're giving. He's pointing to a pattern of behavior. It doesn't scream "scummy" to me, but it is a little off of your normal style of play looking back through our games on DART. It's been long enough and your interactions are consistent enough that I'm not automatically scumreading it, and it's not like you've never contradicted others' reads and thoughts about the game setup before, just seems like that's common to your responses this game and that stands out. I get where wylted's coming from at least.

well i def know im not good at this game but im trying my best to do better. im open to feedback about my playstyle but i dont think ive been doing anything scummy personaly. i feel like ive been bad in the past mostly because of inactivity and nt being caught up, so im making a point to try and be more active

well i def know im not good at this game but im trying my best to do better. im open to feedback about my playstyle but i dont think ive been doing anything scummy personaly. i feel like ive been bad in the past mostly because of inactivity and nt being caught up, so im making a point to try and be more active

Yeah, I get it. Like I said, not currently scumreading it, I just see what he's getting at.

And @Kohai, is there any reason your vote has persisted?

To answer this question I haven’t formed a lot of reads. My vote back then and as is now is a PL for editing posts.

At the risk of being self-serving, I think we should drop this angle on principle. What I did was wrong, but also inconsequential. If you don't believe me, ask Savant to check.

Editing posts should really leave a header saying "Last edited by..." or something. I thought it did.

And, in the end, it didn't even do what I wanted it to because post #57 still has a typo ("thes class"). Typos ruin jokes

At the risk of being self-serving, I think we should drop this angle on principle. What I did was wrong, but also inconsequential. If you don't believe me, ask Savant to check.

the only one still mentioning it is kohai and well u. i think we can move past this

here are my reads

thoth- seems pretty town to me, hes been forthcoming with his character softing and i dont think mafia have a big incentive to do this. hes been active and has posted more than a lot of people, he doesnt seem to have any hidden agendas at least for now

magoroth- hasnt really done a lot to give me a town read on him, but he seems caught up at the same time, so i dont really like his controbutions so far

magicman- i guess hes fine so far but hassnt really posted a lot either im kind of waiting to see what we will get from him, but times ticking so we need it soon

whiteflame- i am okay with him for town leaning on the town side, he been very active and he doesnt seem to be making hasty decisions and is thinking things through, on the other hand i dont know if i like the fact that he is bringing up that we have limited time but also shooting down lynch options like with my push on rex and then not offering an alternotive route instead. still mostly leaning town, but he isnt really making moves either which i kind of expect from him since he is one of the ones i remember from dart as being a good player

kohai- im torn on him because on one hand he has softed a lot and basically narrowed down his character which again is not something i would expect scum to do, but the heavy focus on the post edit thing is a bit sus to me, like does he really think if thoth was mafia he would draw attention to himself like that by editing a post so obviously? i would like to see some deeper stuff from them

shining- leaning this person as being scum, similar to mogorath hasnt really said anything important, seems heavily offended by the idea that anyone should dare talk about the theme but also offers nothing insifightful or meaningful to progress things. ironically hes doing the thing that wylted is acussing me of doing by being contrarian to everything suggested the only difference is hes not suggesting a path forward.

wylted- i think his read on me is kind of dumb but i also think hes trying to get a reaction out of me which feels like he is probly town. if his read isn't to bait me, i think hes just holding like my first couple games against me where i was a little emotional, but i dont know if he is forgetting some of my last games on dart, so idk. i really dont think mafia would show so much convinction on a read like that and he seems to actually think hes onto something here, not just lurking to take whatever easy oppertunity presents itself so i am leaning mostly town on him as well

thats what i got for now, sorry these arent the best

we have got one day left to make a decision so we need to start looking at who we are wanting to lynch.

my rex vote doesnt seem to be getting any traction. im not retracting my read but i dont want to waste time either, so what are we thinking as far as making a lynch happen, because atm we seem discombobulated

unvote

This is every post we have from shining:

"Almost forgot about this game lol. I see we are softing. I am currently in the Trump administration."

"I'm a little shocked that people seem supportive of potential war with Iran."

"I'm of the opinion that theme analysis ends up being worthless 80% of the time. There can be a bumch of different things the theme could be and theme basically only exists as an extra hurdle for mafia to leap over."

"lmao its a bit too late to say that after everyone softed."

"I wouldn't put much money in a possible mod kill. I did think it was odd that Thoth edited his post because he been he long enough to know thats not allowed here. idk."

"Its DP1. Everyone is practically fluff posting. I don't care who we pressure. Pick someone, make them character/role claim and lunch them if they are especially scummy."

just a bunch one one liners and absolutely nothing that gets this ship sailing in in direction.

vtl shining to do literally anything. since im usually this person i think its fair for me to say that the some logic that is always used against me should apply to others as well

I can at least give my thoughts on POE.

I largely agree with Banana's reads on who is likely town. Thoth has had occasions where he's drawn a lot of attention to himself unnecessarily as scum, but this would be a hell of a way to do it and I don't really buy it. I don't think Kohai has been very focused this game and his vote seemed to come up largely to have some fun with the theme, just not sure why it's still up. In any case, especially if he's who I think he is, he's most definitely town. Wylted is consistently difficult to read, but so far he's playing to his meta. If anything, he seems a little more focused up than I expected, but not enough to raise a red flag, so I give him a slight town lean. I put Banana in a similar boat to Kohai. I think I know her character and I think it's unlikely you're scum as a result, even if behaviorally you've been pretty distinct from the last time we played.

A varied pool of null and slight scum.

I'd say REF is pure null. He just has not been talking about the game much, which makes him difficult to read.

Shining is pretty null, too. He pushed back on theme analysis, mentioned Thoth's post edit as odd, and said he would back any choice we make for who to pressure. Tempted to put pressure on him just for that, but it's the kind of passivity I expect from DP1 Shining.

Mag1c I have a slight scum lean on. He has been more engaged, but in ways that make it difficult to get a bead on him. His read on Wylted looks good, but his pushback on the softclaim came far too late and after he'd already softed.

Similar boat for Magoroth. I think he's just been really inconsistent for the few posts he's made so far. I don't mind that people are challenging the use of softclaims, but it's weird that both of them challenged their use and softed without any pressure to do so. Slight scum.

So I can see a case for pressuring any of those bottom four.

Regardless, I just posted an RFD that took a lot of time to work through and I'm low on bandwidth for more discussion tonight. I will pick this up early tomorrow and we can discuss who we want to pursue.

it seems we are agreeing on the ideas behind on most of our reads here, that makes me a bit more comfortable with the idea that you are town

I don't think Kohai has been very focused this game and his vote seemed to come up largely to have some fun with the theme, just not sure why it's still up

i dont think i picked up on that, thanks for the heads up

now i feel dumb. rereading kohais post there probably town, unless the theme split is something wierd

so... if mafia have any brain cells and we should assume they do, there are like 4 claims on the board already despite this whole soft claiming thing we were supposed to stick to. yeah partially my fault too ik. also the people who have claimed least also happen to be the four who have contributed the least to the game, so i am thinking we might have a good lead for scum between margoroth, magicman, rex, and shining. whiteflame falls in to that too, im giving him a bit of a pass tho because i town read him

I see your additional soft so I guess I’ll also make an additional soft, although 99% chance you’ll guess it immediately. I was a former US senator.

wait a darn second i thought he was softing trump, but trump wasnt a US senator. that moves him back down a notch on the town list for me.

im cleansing my entire read on kohai, maybe slight town points for the soft but at this point its a late soft since their not trump so they dont get that many town points for it. and again im not a fan of the post edit kick hes on so that accrues some scum points. ill move kohai to a slight scum read