Ruyi Zhuan Mafia DP1

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Shining 1/6 (Magoroth)

“Scum were given two fake claims"

The entire scum gets two fake claims between each another?

Or does each scum have two fake claims?

The entire scum team received a total of two full fake claims.

I'll have more time to post later, but I wanted to at least give some thoughts on the structure of this game, which is rather distinctive and complex.

If I have this right, we've got an Emperor (Vader) who will be handing out favor every NP. The favor determines your ranking, which can fall into one of five categories: Concubine, Consort, Noble Consort, Imperial Noble Consort and Empress.

Scum have been given two fake claims (I don't think we get a lot out of pushing for softclaims with those, nor do I think outing the Empress is a good idea with a complex theme split), which means it's likely there are two scum in this game, with maybe a TP in the mix.

Hopefully I've at least got the gist. I've read through the posts so far and I find it pretty confusing that a negative utility role like Miller would activate from having more favor.

Based on my role PM and the clips I've seen of this harem drama, it seems to me like these girls do not give the feel-good vibes I look for when fantasizing about being the protagonist of a harem anime.

Well... here’s a thought. I assume Empress is Town. I also assume scum know which abilities are in the game, so it’s not like they would have to make up some night actions that aren’t possible, so there’s no value to the Empress hiding these night actions.

I think Empress should instaclaim right now and tell us what abilities she has access to. Then, Vader decides on who to make the Empress. We can also determine who to give favour to, etc.

Honestly, maybe it’s a good idea to claim how much favour everyone has? Idk.

Don't like the idea of outing the Empress, who I assume is starting out with all her powers and would be a top scum target. As for the favor claims, this also gives scum an idea of our power levels.

Hold on, I didn't understand my role. I am only miller when I get a certain amount of favor. I guess I probably didn't even need to say anything

Gonna have to agree with whiteflame. Miller should be your default role -- it's weird as an unlockable

No reason for the Empress to out.

Its strange that Wylted loses his miller when he gets favor.

it’s strange that a miller stops being a miller when he becomes townier? really?

Apparently I got confused. Wylted BECOMES miller when he gets favor. Its a little strange to me.

We're talking about it because the idea of the theme is that as you advance in favor, you gain advantages (as it is in any court). The idea that you advance in favor but gain a disadvantage is odd.

We're talking about it because the idea of the theme is that as you advance in favor, you gain advantages (as it is in any court). The idea that you advance in favor but gain a disadvantage is odd.

I agree, but this whole game is odd. I can see Rex putting in negative utility that gets negativer with favor.

I do want a character and justification claim from Wylted because I can imagine this is something like, "the court gets more dangerous for you the more attention you attract".

He's claiming he gets Miller at Imperial Noble Consort level too

I do want a character and justification claim from Wylted because I can imagine this is something like, "the court gets more dangerous for you the more attention you attract".

Could definitely see this

VTL Mikal

Random vote start

FYI not fully around but should be good to go tomorrow. Mentioned to skep id have to start Monday as I’m still moving and setting stuff up.

Could we not use flavour to scum hunt, please?

no, it’s a good thing you claimed you become Miller at high favour.

“The entire scum team received two fake claims"

I wouldn’t use this information to “prove” that there’s only 2 scum btw. Keep an open mind. Hosts love to trip you up with this sort of information.

8v3 is perfectly balanced.

First initial read is that Wryly seems kinda shy. It could be her personality, it could also be due to her alignment.

VTL Wryly

Fairly weak town read on wylted due to the reaction at claiming Miller.

Honestly I buy Wylted's claim too. He reads more like a frustrated townie given a fairly unorthodox role.

Wylted is probably town. Miller is a risky claim but the way he claimed it and his realization about the complex mechanization of his role makes it seem more legit to me. I think we can move past him.

Also heads up I am generally not a fan of games that have weird flavor mechanics, I signed up for this one as a return favor since rex signed up for mine, but I just wanna play normal mafia, so I am going to try to treat this like a normal mafia game as much as possible. I honestly don't understand why mods want to over complicate stuff like this all the time, it seems like it always frustrates the players and ultimately always favors mafia.

VTL Thoth

Scummy to justify a vote in RVS.

Wylted is probably town. Miller is a risky claim but the way he claimed it and his realization about the complex mechanization of his role makes it seem more legit to me. I think we can move past him.

Also heads up I am generally not a fan of games that have weird flavor mechanics, I signed up for this one as a return favor since rex signed up for mine, but I just wanna play normal mafia, so I am going to try to treat this like a normal mafia game as much as possible. I honestly don't understand why mods want to over complicate stuff like this all the time, it seems like it always frustrates the players and ultimately always favors mafia.

Ymmv I guess. I was kinda psyched for this when he explained it to me, sounds fun.

First initial read is that Wryly seems kinda shy. It could be her personality, it could also be due to her alignment.

VTL Wryly

Indeed I have been widely described as shy, modest, chaste, demure, graceful, feminine, with dainty movements and tiny feet. My calligraphy flows like the wind bearing the lotus blossoms through the bamboo. The Emperor should well take note of this.

Well, what did you expect me to do? Vote for a random player and leave y'all to figure out why?