You know what, at this point if I get lynched I don’t really give a shit anymore. I blame the people who voted me. Nothing I did was that genuinely scummy except perhaps for lying about the Framer claim, I get that that’s scummy but why in the world would I claim FRAMER as Scum of all roles?
Scum was probably on my lynch if I get lynched.
You know what, at this point if I get lynched I don’t really give a shit anymore. I blame the people who voted me. Nothing I did was that genuinely scummy except perhaps for lying about the Framer claim, I get that that’s scummy but why in the world would I claim FRAMER as Scum of all roles?
I mean even if you are town, a mislynch isnt the end of the world or the game lol Town has room for errors.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Ok. Let’s Lynch you then. It’s not the end of the world.
Notice how Lunatic stops short of calling me Town, he is basically calling me Town without actually doing it. I think he’s actually scum
Awesome5000 4/6 - Wylted, Thoth, Mikal, Wryly
Lunatic 1/6 - Magoroth
Magoroth 3/6 - Banana, Lunatic, Pie
Roughly 1.5 Hours remaining before end of DP
Not Voting: Awesome, Shining, Whiteflame
I have no desire to claim. I’ve said my abilities contradicts one of yours and if I am lying, I will get killed eventually. It’s already a soft claim.
you are going heavy heavy omgus. Luna is not death tunneling you or pressuring you like you think he is. He’s genuinely trying to understand your logic. Same thing I was trying to do. It’s not saying you are scum, if anything I’m struggling to understand if you are just playing a horrendous scum game or just eratic scum town. Someone pointing out inconsistencies in what you are saying or questioning your logic isn’t a scum tell. If anything it’s giving you the benefit of the doubt. Either one of us could have started a wagon on you and likely have it go through because you have lied about your role and just suggested full on anti town ideas but if anything we are trying to consider the fact you are just playing bad and aren’t scum.
but like it’s all listed in the above
suggesting a mass claim is a scum thing to do when there is no benefit
suggesting a massive power role out is also a scum thing to do with no benefit
lying about one of your roles when you are under no pressure is weird by itself but the reasons you had for doing so also make no sense and all of that is scummy
my abilities contradict one of yours
i if anyone am being extremely passive with my normal play and trying to actually give you the benefit of the doubt and consider that you are playing poorly and are nervous. I think Luna is doing the same. But omgus on anyone who disagrees with you is silly.
objectively you appear scummy it’s just whether you are scum/ noob town accidentally and played awfully or you are scum and got caught up in some weird sequence of lies and also are playing poorly
if any one person wanted you dead youd prob be dead. Again If anything we are being extremely cautious and considering eveyrthing. No one is death tunneling you lol
We have four votes currently on Awesome. Is there any reason you all are on him besides a lack of activity?
Mines on vtnl
Rex prob missed it
Mines on vtnl
Rex prob missed it
Got it, that's where I'm leaning atm.
I can’t decipher whether mag is town or scum. Everything points to scum but I Havnt played with him enough to just finger out if he’s playing shitty so I’m okay with coming back to this later and I feel like awesome is to much of a risk to shoot
we do prob need some claims tomorrow and push from more on shinning and awesome or they can just coast if they are scum.
the thing is, to me, it is PAINFULLY obvious that I am town, like, really, super obvious, I can’t imagine being scum and playing like this, or acting like this, if I was scum I woulda collapsed due to the supposed web of lies that I entangled myself with and tripped over. so to me suggestions that I could be scum are frankly baffling, that is point 1.
point 2. is that Lunatic’s arguments against me, up until the point I freaked out, were. basically completely ignoring any possibility I may be Town, whenever I answered one of his questions he would fire back with “argument is invalid”, which is INCREDIBLY frustrating when you know you’re telling the truth and people don’t want to listen
and, it’s actually kinda borderline unbelievable to the point where it reeks of TMI, “fake” scum confidence that is easy to project, I mean, come on, NOBODY is that confident
yes, he did start to display doubts, but IMO it’s too little too late, and it doesn’t help that his points basically make me Town but he continues to slot me as NAI/Scum which is fucking weird
Ok. Let’s Lynch you then. It’s not the end of the world.
Thats fine, if you think you can get the support for it, go for it.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Notice how Lunatic stops short of calling me Town, he is basically calling me Town without actually doing it. I think he’s actually scum
You literally can't substantiate a single thing you say lol
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Whoops
Awesome5000 3/6 - Wylted, Thoth, Wryly
Lunatic 1/6 - Magoroth
Magoroth 3/6 - Banana, Lunatic, Pie
VTNL 1/6 - Mikal
Roughly 1.5 Hours remaining before end of DP
Not Voting: Awesome, Shining, Whiteflame
Yes, I can? I can give you an example that happened LITERALLY on this page:
You know what, at this point if I get lynched I don’t really give a shit anymore. I blame the people who voted me. Nothing I did was that genuinely scummy except perhaps for lying about the Framer claim, I get that that’s scummy but why in the world would I claim FRAMER as Scum of all roles?
"I mean even if you are town, a mislynch isnt the end of the world or the game lol Town has room for errors."
How am I supposed to read that in any way other than you basically saying I am probably Town?
If you read what he was doing at no point did he say you were full on scum. He said you were acting scummy (you are/were) and he was questioning your logic and explanations. Luna will death tunnel you int the ground and call people idiots and morons for not voting for you if he was actually wanting you to die. I’ve seen him death tunnel RM and others. This is literally him saying
hey bro you are playing sus or just playing like shit so help me figure out which it is before I kill you or we have to kill you
especially since you are the sore thumb this day phase.
I slight town read Lina for not pushing for you because it’s so easy to kill you atm. But he could be creating distance
still it’s just like. If he wanted you dead , he would have an easy time. So most of the Arguments sayinf. He’s not listening or tunneling yada yada , just don’t make sense. He’s just questioning your play and logic. As is everyone in the game atm lol
point 2. is that Lunatic’s arguments against me, up until the point I freaked out, were. basically completely ignoring any possibility I may be Town, whenever I answered one of his questions he would fire back with “argument is invalid”, which is INCREDIBLY frustrating when you know you’re telling the truth and people don’t want to listen
I never said your argument was invalid, I just questioned you on decisions and choices. You taking it that way is what everyone means when they say you consistently omgus though.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
I don’t think it’s that easy to kill me after I basically freaked the fuck out. I don’t know the meta onsite that well but personally, I town read the fuck out of freak outs like mine. So I think it’s not that easy for him to push me after that, so he can’t really hard push me unless he really wants a bullseye on himself tomorrow
Literally everyone in the lobby has said they are fine with lynching you. Even Wylted lol
It sure felt that way. I remember there was a question you asked me that I answered truthfully and you found a way to go “no actually that’s scum” and that’s when I freaked the fuck out.
Yes, I can? I can give you an example that happened LITERALLY on this page:
You know what, at this point if I get lynched I don’t really give a shit anymore. I blame the people who voted me. Nothing I did was that genuinely scummy except perhaps for lying about the Framer claim, I get that that’s scummy but why in the world would I claim FRAMER as Scum of all roles?
"I mean even if you are town, a mislynch isnt the end of the world or the game lol Town has room for errors."
How am I supposed to read that in any way other than you basically saying I am probably Town?
Thats not saying you are town, that's me telling people that there is less risk to lynching you as your role has anti town elements to it. As opposed to not lynching or random lynching a potential power role, mislynching a townie whose role could hurt town isn't the end of the world. I am still not sold that you are scum either, but I can see elements to suggest you are town. But we are pressed on time and I see you as the best option atm.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
It sure felt that way. I remember there was a question you asked me that I answered truthfully and you found a way to go “no actually that’s scum” and that’s when I freaked the fuck out.
I am talking consistencies in behaviors that are common themes among scum members vs noob town. There are variables to factor in every individual, we will find that out if you are town here.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Yes very easy to kill you. The only reason no one is pushing is no one wants to be wrong. If scum does it and you flip town. They appear sus for going for an easy lynch and if town does it and you don’t flip scum. They can get mislynced foe the same logic and we are down a power role.
I don’t know if anyone can decipher your play as bad or scummy so no one wants to commit. But if someone wanted a wagon on you. Yes youd be dead lol
I can’t decipher whether mag is town or scum. Everything points to scum but I Havnt played with him enough to just finger out if he’s playing shitty so I’m okay with coming back to this later and I feel like awesome is to much of a risk to shoot
Yeah, I'm in a similar boat on Magoroth. I can see the case against him, but I'm really split on him and I'd prefer not to just lynch him at this point.
we do prob need some claims tomorrow and push from more on shinning and awesome or they can just coast if they are scum.
Harder for me to say on the inactives, but I'm also nervous of just lynching blind, and that's what we'd have to do at this point.
Lol. “No risk to lynching a Town member”. Okay bud.
VTL Lunatic
I don’t think I’m unvoting this. I’ll vote Awesome or VTNL to self pres, but that’s about it.
Yeah, I'm in a similar boat on Magoroth. I can see the case against him, but I'm really split on him and I'd prefer not to just lynch him at this point.
Heres the thing; If you think this issue will circle back at any point in the game, we are just perpetuating the inevitable. I suppose if you wanted to risk taking him into lylo that could potentially confirm him scum, because scum would never let him into lylo.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Do you get the logic to that statement ?
