Andor Mafia DP2

I accidentally marked myself as offensive and can’t change it. I can’t say it’s wrong, but I would love if a mod could fix it

The optimum way to play with these rules is speed run to LYLO and then slow way the fuck down

I get the desire to move quickly, but I don't get why you're pushing to go this fast and just lynch heedlessly at this point.

We have now crossed more than the half way point of the game and are still in the early phase of the game

...Huh? The game ends in 4+ days, dude. We're not halfway there.

I’m Saw Gerrera

Jesus Chris another major Rebellion character

Role?

Who are your scumreads? I don’t really have any myself, to be totally honest. Not interrogating you, want to have a starting point.

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Wryly (2/4) - Banana, wylted

Banana (1/4) - Thoth

wylted (1/4) - Magoroth

Why is wylted town confirmed?

In the middle of the game we should be in the middle phase

DP2 is literally the middle of a game. 9 Player games rarely go to dp4 let alone past that, unless there is some weird roles at play.

1x Even Night Vigilante. That’s why I bought wylted’s claim. On odds, my kill would cost us a mislynch, assuming a kill every phase. wylted’s role is obviously in the game to stop that, and I suspected from the start that someone had a role meant to stop mine from changing the mislynch math, which is what I meant when I said that a specific soft-claim could help me, i.e., by verifying that suspicion.

I’m Saw Gerrera

Would've been surprised if he wasn't in this game. He's a pretty major player even in Rogue One.

According to yall a lot of these characters seem pretty major. I remember whiteflame saying something about Kino Loy being a weird link for martyr in dp1 however. What are your thoughts on his claim in comparison to others?

Who are your scumreads? I don’t really have any myself, to be totally honest. Not interrogating you, want to have a starting point.

Cassian, Bix, Luthen, and Mothma are all characters I would expect to be in the game and not choice fake claim characters. Banana has also confirmed her role, so I'll eliminate her from POE. I'm not sure how much Saw Gerrera is in the actual show because I didn't watch it that far, but he's also a major Rebellion general. Maarva Andor and Kino Loy are the two that strike me as the most fake claimy.

So... We have wryly protect thoth, have thoth shoot wylted, If wylted lives he is confirmed. Unless mafia has a roleblock or something.

1x Even Night Vigilante. That’s why I bought wylted’s claim. On odds, my kill would cost us a mislynch, assuming a kill every phase. wylted’s role is obviously in the game to stop that, and I suspected from the start that someone had a role meant to stop mine from changing the mislynch math, which is what I meant when I said that a specific soft-claim could help me, i.e., by verifying that suspicion.

I guess I get how the alignment of your two even night roles makes some sense, but isn't the idea that it would cost us an NP, not a mislynch? That would mean scum lose an NK.

Dead

Kohai- Exmar Kloris- Chauffeur- Mafia - Lynched DP1

Rex- Wilmon Paak- Inventor (1x commuter, 1x tracker, 1x bomb) - Town- Killed NP1

Alive

Magoroth- Marva Andor- Restless Spirit (Post 111, 117 DP1)

Wylted- Kino Loy- Even Night Martyr (Post 137, DP1)

Lunatic- Luthen Rael (Post 221, DP1)

Banana- Mon Mothma - Petitioner (Post 132, DP1, Post 20, 27 DP2)

Wryly- Casian Andor (Post 79 DP2)

Whiteflame- Bix Caleen (Post 98 DP2)

Thoth- Saw Gerrera (Post 118 DP2)

Aren’t we all

According to yall a lot of these characters seem pretty major. I remember whiteflame saying something about Kino Loy being a weird link for martyr in dp1 however. What are your thoughts on his claim in comparison to others?

At this point, everyone is pretty major. Marva and Kino are major characters in season 1. Luthen, Mon, Bix, Cassian and Saw are all pretty major across both seasons. I still don't love the Martyr claim, but that's mainly because I've seen it used as a fake claim before. Claiming an even night role and having someone else say that they're also even night does give Wylted some credit, that's the main thing holding me back from just sussing him at this point.

I guess I get how the alignment of your two even night roles makes some sense, but isn't the idea that it would cost us an NP, not a mislynch? That would mean scum lose an NK.

Correct me if I mismathed, but I believe friendly fire would cost us a day phase, so same difference.

It would skip a night phase giving us another lynch, net benefit honestly. dying is how you play that role. Better than modkilling yourself.

Correct me if I mismathed, but I believe friendly fire would cost us a day phase, so same difference.

It would cost us a night phase, so no, it's not the same.

According to yall a lot of these characters seem pretty major. I remember whiteflame saying something about Kino Loy being a weird link for martyr in dp1 however. What are your thoughts on his claim in comparison to others?

Kino Loy inspires a prison break where the escapees must swim to freedom, but he cannot swim himself and must remain in prison (presumably suffering for his incitement of the riot, as well). Martyr kind of fits.

And Thoth's claim is definitely making me take pause on wylted.

Without Martyr, we go into DP4 with 5 people if I don’t shoot, or 4 if we do. 5 people can go into final three if one scum has been lynched, but a mislynch always ends the game immediately with 4.

With Martyr, we can go into DP3 with 4 people and still have final three on DP4.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

This is discounting other possible protectives or kills

Since everyone has full claimed, what is your role?

Without Martyr, we go into DP4 with 5 people if I don’t shoot, or 4 if we do. 5 people can go into final three if one scum has been lynched, but a mislynch always ends the game immediately with 4.

With Martyr, we can go into DP3 with 4 people and still have final three on DP4.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

I'm just confused by this, but I think this is what you're saying:

It's 6-1 now. By the end of NP2 (this is DP2), if we mislynch, you shoot and the NK is successful, it will be 3-1 (MYLO).

If the Martyr is real and you shoot the Wylted, there is no NP3 after DP3. So we get an extra mislynch (2-1).

If the Martyr isn't real and you shoot the Wylted, there is an NP3 and the game could end DP3 after you shoot him.

Gotta get busy, will check back in later